Luger 45 ACP Project

[G.T.]

Hi to all! As to the ongoing Luger .45 thread on this forum, it has come to my attention that perhaps I have committed an error in protocol by suggesting revisions, or describing my findings and other problems concerning the new .45 Lugers, just recently released, to the members here?
Any issues with the .45 Lugers concerning function, safety, warranty, service, repair or parts for these new pistols should be directed, solely and exclusively, to Lugerman Inc. for consideration and / or, repair!
I agree 100% to the above statement, and certainly had no intention of over stepping any already established policy concerning these units…
To the contrary, I am very happy to possess one of these wonderful firearms, and am continually impressed with the effort and skill put forth by Eugene to make owning one of these beauties a real possibility for the average guy. My hat is off to Eugene and his team…
If anyone wishes to discuss any Luger problems of any type in private, new or old, relevant or not, I can still be reached at: gctomeks@msn.com
Best to all my Luger family, til….lat’r…..GT......

[DonVoigt]

Originally Posted by G.T.

Hi to all! As to the ongoing Luger .45 thread on this forum, it has come to my attention that perhaps I have committed an error in protocol by suggesting revisions, or describing my findings and other problems concerning the new .45 Lugers, just recently released, to the members here?
Any issues with the .45 Lugers concerning function, safety, warranty, service, repair or parts for these new pistols should be directed, solely and exclusively, to Lugerman Inc. for consideration and / or, repair!
I agree 100% to the above statement, and certainly had no intention of over stepping any already established policy concerning these units…
To the contrary, I am very happy to possess one of these wonderful firearms, and am continually impressed with the effort and skill put forth by Eugene to make owning one of these beauties a real possibility for the average guy. My hat is off to Eugene and his team…
If anyone wishes to discuss any Luger problems of any type in private, new or old, relevant or not, I can still be reached at: gctomeks@msn.com
Best to all my Luger family, til….lat’r…..GT......

GT,
You did nothing wrong.

If Eugene complained to you, he should have done it in the "open" - here on the forum.

You have every "right" and perhaps even an obligation to share your experiences and solutions with other .45 owners.

If Eugene is "sensitive" to such information being public, he should respond to his customers in real time and use the forum to keep them and the rest of the luger fraternity updated.

As I said before, he has done a remarkable job re-creating the .45 luger, and a very un-remarkable job in communication.

JMHO.

[G.T.]

Hi Don, Thanks for the note on my post, and, I don't feel as I have done any wrong or harm in posting my experiences with the .45, and I am excited about the prospect of attaining 100% function for my own personal .45 Luger, and will pursue any problems relentlessly! The area that becomes a bit gray is my problem solving gene sometimes gets the better of me and I take on challenges that are not really tasked to me, or I offer advice in an area that it has not been requested?
Eugene has not contacted me directly in either regard, it is just that he is the manufacture and is on the hook for all warranty, parts, repairs and liability that comes with it, and as such should be the starting point for all inquiries as to any issues encountered. This is just professional courtesy, and because of the monumental effort he has put forth, I very much respect that...
As I mentioned earlier, I am always available for all other revision questions and information discoveries that I have been tasked with or that involve non-current production items not associated with any of our members...
That being said, Don has been my co-conspirator in many, many Luger problem solving tasks over the last few years! I am not the least bit shy in saying that as a team, there is very little that we can't overcome in the luger field, old or new... He is my R&D, and we have great fun with it along the way! Best to all, til…..lat'r…...GT....

[Ron Wood]

Originally Posted by ithacaartist

The stitching is disappointing. Why does it look so much better on the back?

What Jerry didn't mention is that the .45 holster is the working prototype of the holster he is creating. When he decides his design is OK you can bet you will be hard pressed to tell his finished product from a factory original.
Ron

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by Ron Wood

What Jerry didn't mention is that the .45 holster is the working prototype of the holster he is creating.

Interesting. Is the 'loose' stitching then so that Jerry can take it back apart and use it for a pattern???

As to the ongoing Luger .45 thread on this forum, it has come to my attention that perhaps I have committed an error in protocol by suggesting revisions, or describing my findings and other problems concerning the new .45 Lugers, just recently released, to the members here?

I would like to thank Gerry for his comments on the .45 Luger. I did not purchase one but it is entirely possible that I may buy one in the future, whether used or new, and notwithstanding if it has been 'upgraded' or not.

I believe it is a service to all purchasers/owners to point out any idiosyncrasies that may exist.

FWIW, I do not demand perfection. Eugene's .45 :uger would be eminently acceptable to me.

...My unpopular $.02...

[2bnag]

Originally Posted by Ron Wood

What Jerry didn't mention is that the .45 holster is the working prototype of the holster he is creating. When he decides his design is OK you can bet you will be hard pressed to tell his finished product from a factory original.
Ron

Uhhh,...there weren't any factory originals.....

[Ron Wood]

Originally Posted by 2bnag

Uhhh,...there weren't any factory originals.....

Uhhh...you are correct. I was loosely referring to those holsters that were made for the M1900 Test Trials Lugers. The design of Jerry's faux .45 Luger holsters is very similar to those Rock Island Arsenal holsters and the construction and workmanship is on a par with the originals.

[lugerholsterrepair]

The stitching is disappointing. Why does it look so much better on the back?



Yes I agree. This holster was made quickly with the idea that it wouldn't survive the patterning process. It came back from GT with modifications suggested, was torn apart, sliced and diced and I cobbled it back together. It was also made with less than premium grade leather and was never meant for sale. I now have an accurate pattern so if I ever have a need to make a production .45 holster I can do it. This sad example can be relegated to the Lugerholsterrepair museum or I might give it away.

But thanks for noticing. It was fun while it lasted.

[2bnag]

I'll Take it any day...Bill

[Tony N.]

I was wondering if we would be able to the prototype it will make a nice addition for the people that have a 45 Luger

[G.T.]

Hi To all!!! Well, without stepping on any ones toes, I want to bring everyone up to date on what has transpired since my last post on the .45 Luger function and reliability.... Again, the disclaimer, if you have any issues with your .45 luger, Eugene is the fellow to contact! … Ok... we're past that now....
So, here is what I discovered, the .45 recoil spring was just a tad long and as a result over strength, which didn't allow for full recoil and other subsequent functions?... Soooo, I clipped one full coil from the spring, was 18 coils, now 17, and "boom" 100% function with, Winchester .45 military classic 230 gr. ball ammo....
I did try to reduce the magazine spring strength so it would be user friendly, but it was a certain failure to eject trap, very similar to issues I faced with the snail drums?... I did stretch the original, as issued follower springs to get it as close to designed as possible... I feel there is some room for serious improvement in this area as it is practically impossible to load the mag without the loading tool... So, five shot strings went off with out a hitch, probably shot 30 plus rounds with out any issues... Really fun to shoot.... best to all, til….lat'r….GT....

[lugerholsterrepair]

Fantastic news Gerald! Guy says who are you..I'm a fixer. What do you fix? Things that need fixin.



Great detective work!

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair

Guy says who are you..I'm a fixer. What do you fix? Things that need fixin.

Yeah...What he said...

[DonVoigt]

Originally Posted by sheepherder

Yeah...What he said...

I can fix anything, unless it is really broke.

[lugerholsterrepair]

[Vlim]

With the speed of .45 luger production, perhaps a holster made of sloth leather would be fitting? With land turtle shield details

[lugerholsterrepair]

Yes, I have geared up to produce a couple of these fine .45 Luger holsters but supply and demand are slugging it out!

[sheepherder]

Dwight Gruber has posted an excellent critique of his .45 Lugerman Luger -

https://luger.gunboards.com/showthre...for-sale/page9

Then scroll down to post #251

[DavidJayUden]

I'm having trouble with that link.
dju

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by DavidJayUden

I'm having trouble with that link.
dju

...???...Works for me...

It's the link to page 9; you'll want to scroll down to post #251...