1914 mauser question

edwood · 07-12-2005, 08:04 AM

I just picked up a mauser 1914, paid 350 shipped, but I have been looking for one for a while and could not find any for lower.
I was wondering, I was told that these guns have serial numbers on every part. mine is all matching but stamped numbers on the frame slide and side plate, and barrel only,cant find any other numbers, the parts in side look heat treated with case hardening. trigger and extractor look darker royal blue. different from the frame and slide. It has not been reblued any where. the mag has a square front bottom plate, and the mauser mark is just visible very faint. on the right side of the mag. marked Germany on the frame right side. My serial number is also 338xxx, any info on when it was made and who the germany stamped ones were sent to? US? thanks

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David O · 07-14-2005, 04:08 PM

Hello,
I have had two of these pistols. The first was a commercial made after WWI. Only the main parts were numbered. The second is a WWI military marked. It has the internal parts numbered. I donÃ¢??t know if the difference in numbering is due to the use or when they were made. I hope this helps.

pisto · 07-14-2005, 05:35 PM

Cangrads, you got a nice piece there!
Hope there is somebody out there who can verify my comments and IÃ?Â´m not the really specialist about those!

There are existing some different variations. and 2 calibers, 6,35 and 7,65.
It was built almost before the WWI as model 1910 Sidelatch (first variation) in 6,35.
was also between commercial use in Police and Army service !
If yours has a army actaptance stamp it should normally be at the rear sight aerea! But the fact it is marked "Germany" is meaning that it was sold in the early days to the US.
In early German Police books( Schmidt 1928) it is called Mauser Taschenpistole (pocket pistol) and is designed to be between the 6,35 caliber and the 9mm Luger.
The numbering practise is different, early models are numbered all over but late 1910/34 are just numbered on the main parts.

edwood · 07-14-2005, 06:42 PM

Thanks, to me it is ugly in the attractive since. I would not want to bet my life on it, but love the history and design.
I would believe it would date between 1918 end of ww1 and some time in 34 when they changed the design. prob. in the 20's the take down latch and trigger and extractor are salt blue. I think, salt blue I always though was the salt bath blueing. and had the bluish tint to it instead of the black blue we usually think of. if any one can give me a quick history on the blueing I would be grateful. the inside parts look heat treated with the straw color to them. thanks again for the input

Vlim · 07-15-2005, 10:23 AM

You're gonna like this one.

A period Mauser ad featuring this neat little pistol. I have another ad coming in from Austria soon. This ad shows Mauser delivered them from january 1914 onwards. The ad dates from 1913.

Lyn Islaub · 07-15-2005, 12:45 PM

You have what is identified as a Standard Postwar Commercial 1914. There were about 150,000 of this variation made and many were exported to the USA in the 1920's and 1930's. The serial number or a partial serial number should be located on the left side of the slide, the rear of the frame and on the side of the barrel strap that the take down rod goes through. The original finish is rust blue with fire blued small parts. Neat pistol and a nice find for you.
Lyn

pisto · 07-16-2005, 08:35 AM

on the icture is a Mauser Armorers manual from 1928 Hauptmann Schmitt:
the same G.van Vlimmeren has:

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/simg0001.jpg

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/simg0002.jpg

and a 20 page original Pistol manual for the 6,35 and 7,65mm pistol
"Mauser - Selbstlade - Pistole" Kaliber 7,65 mm (und 6,35mm neues Modell)

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/simg0004.jpg

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/simg0003.jpg

very interesting with that systems Mauser Pocket pistol is that they are the only specimen keeping theyr slide open by firing the last round in 6.32 mm
no other pistol in that small caliber does have that feature as far I know ? !
Another interesting detail is that the slide is closed automaticly by inserting another magazine.
They have a magazine safety that allows not to be decocked without a magazine.

Vlim · 07-26-2005, 12:32 PM

Received another, more elaborate Mauser advertisement today. This one shows the 6.35mm version.

Enjoy!

07-12-2005, 08:04 AM	#1
edwood User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 94 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	1914 mauser question I just picked up a mauser 1914, paid 350 shipped, but I have been looking for one for a while and could not find any for lower. I was wondering, I was told that these guns have serial numbers on every part. mine is all matching but stamped numbers on the frame slide and side plate, and barrel only,cant find any other numbers, the parts in side look heat treated with case hardening. trigger and extractor look darker royal blue. different from the frame and slide. It has not been reblued any where. the mag has a square front bottom plate, and the mauser mark is just visible very faint. on the right side of the mag. marked Germany on the frame right side. My serial number is also 338xxx, any info on when it was made and who the germany stamped ones were sent to? US? thanks (Image display syntax modified by admin-JS to display the full size image)

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07-14-2005, 04:08 PM	#2
David O User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Georgia Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hello, I have had two of these pistols. The first was a commercial made after WWI. Only the main parts were numbered. The second is a WWI military marked. It has the internal parts numbered. I donÃ¢??t know if the difference in numbering is due to the use or when they were made. I hope this helps.

07-14-2005, 05:35 PM	#3
pisto User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 228 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Cangrads, you got a nice piece there! Hope there is somebody out there who can verify my comments and IÃ?Â´m not the really specialist about those! There are existing some different variations. and 2 calibers, 6,35 and 7,65. It was built almost before the WWI as model 1910 Sidelatch (first variation) in 6,35. was also between commercial use in Police and Army service ! If yours has a army actaptance stamp it should normally be at the rear sight aerea! But the fact it is marked "Germany" is meaning that it was sold in the early days to the US. In early German Police books( Schmidt 1928) it is called Mauser Taschenpistole (pocket pistol) and is designed to be between the 6,35 caliber and the 9mm Luger. The numbering practise is different, early models are numbered all over but late 1910/34 are just numbered on the main parts.

07-14-2005, 06:42 PM	#4
edwood User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 94 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks, to me it is ugly in the attractive since. I would not want to bet my life on it, but love the history and design. I would believe it would date between 1918 end of ww1 and some time in 34 when they changed the design. prob. in the 20's the take down latch and trigger and extractor are salt blue. I think, salt blue I always though was the salt bath blueing. and had the bluish tint to it instead of the black blue we usually think of. if any one can give me a quick history on the blueing I would be grateful. the inside parts look heat treated with the straw color to them. thanks again for the input

07-15-2005, 10:23 AM	#5
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	You're gonna like this one. A period Mauser ad featuring this neat little pistol. I have another ad coming in from Austria soon. This ad shows Mauser delivered them from january 1914 onwards. The ad dates from 1913.

07-15-2005, 12:45 PM	#6
Lyn Islaub Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 435 Thanks: 3 Thanked 152 Times in 72 Posts	You have what is identified as a Standard Postwar Commercial 1914. There were about 150,000 of this variation made and many were exported to the USA in the 1920's and 1930's. The serial number or a partial serial number should be located on the left side of the slide, the rear of the frame and on the side of the barrel strap that the take down rod goes through. The original finish is rust blue with fire blued small parts. Neat pistol and a nice find for you. Lyn

07-16-2005, 08:35 AM	#7
pisto User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 228 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	on the icture is a Mauser Armorers manual from 1928 Hauptmann Schmitt: the same G.van Vlimmeren has: http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/simg0001.jpg http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/simg0002.jpg and a 20 page original Pistol manual for the 6,35 and 7,65mm pistol "Mauser - Selbstlade - Pistole" Kaliber 7,65 mm (und 6,35mm neues Modell) http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/simg0004.jpg http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/simg0003.jpg very interesting with that systems Mauser Pocket pistol is that they are the only specimen keeping theyr slide open by firing the last round in 6.32 mm no other pistol in that small caliber does have that feature as far I know ? ! Another interesting detail is that the slide is closed automaticly by inserting another magazine. They have a magazine safety that allows not to be decocked without a magazine.

07-26-2005, 12:32 PM	#8
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	Received another, more elaborate Mauser advertisement today. This one shows the 6.35mm version. Enjoy!