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04-06-2005, 02:50 PM	#7
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	Hi Ed, Yes, this is the famed "Black Widow" ammo .... St+ is the 'stahl' or 'steel' code. Are the cases steel or brass? If they have 'St' on the bottom, I'd suspect them to be steel cases.

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