Help needed with ID and value

Dwight Gruber · 02-21-2005, 10:41 AM

Ryan,

This Luger started life as a 1918 DWM LP-08 (Artillery). This can be determined by the DWM-style proof eagle (the rightmost stamping on the right receiver) and the notch on the top of the receiver, relieved for the rear tangent sight.

The gun was rebarreled by Simson & Co. in the 1920-1922 time frame, determined by the Eagle with TP figure on the right side of the barrel. Although this is commonly referred to as a mark of the "Technical Police", the reference is ambiguous. In 1937 there existed the Technische Poliizeischul (Zeugamt) (Technical Police Academy, Weapons Office) which in 1937 was recognized as the central authority for acquisition of police weapons, equipment, and ammunition (GÃ?Â¶rtz & Bryans, p.106). The Eagle/6 on the left side of the barrel is a Simson inspection mark.

The sear safety and magazine safety, as well as the 1 stamped on the magazine base, are indicators of a Police Luger. Your side plate is improperly seated, the tab on the right side should fit under the frame side panel. Side plates on a sear-safety gun are sometimes difficult to replace.

Considering the context of the gun, the grip strap marking is almost certainly a Police unit mark, but it is not stamped according to regulation. The only T listed refers to the Trier district, but without a preceding L or S (or K) it cannot be presumed to represent this. The corresponding 67 on the magazine base certainly indicates that it belongs to this weapon, but this stamping also is not in accordance with the Police marking instructions.

It would be interesting to see the holster to see if it is a Police-style holster, and if it has any markings.

--Dwight

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02-21-2005, 10:41 AM	#5
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,908 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,330 Times in 435 Posts	Ryan, This Luger started life as a 1918 DWM LP-08 (Artillery). This can be determined by the DWM-style proof eagle (the rightmost stamping on the right receiver) and the notch on the top of the receiver, relieved for the rear tangent sight. The gun was rebarreled by Simson & Co. in the 1920-1922 time frame, determined by the Eagle with TP figure on the right side of the barrel. Although this is commonly referred to as a mark of the "Technical Police", the reference is ambiguous. In 1937 there existed the Technische Poliizeischul (Zeugamt) (Technical Police Academy, Weapons Office) which in 1937 was recognized as the central authority for acquisition of police weapons, equipment, and ammunition (GÃ?Â¶rtz & Bryans, p.106). The Eagle/6 on the left side of the barrel is a Simson inspection mark. The sear safety and magazine safety, as well as the 1 stamped on the magazine base, are indicators of a Police Luger. Your side plate is improperly seated, the tab on the right side should fit under the frame side panel. Side plates on a sear-safety gun are sometimes difficult to replace. Considering the context of the gun, the grip strap marking is almost certainly a Police unit mark, but it is not stamped according to regulation. The only T listed refers to the Trier district, but without a preceding L or S (or K) it cannot be presumed to represent this. The corresponding 67 on the magazine base certainly indicates that it belongs to this weapon, but this stamping also is not in accordance with the Police marking instructions. It would be interesting to see the holster to see if it is a Police-style holster, and if it has any markings. --Dwight