Unique Kreigsmodel grip screws

monk69 · 09-12-2003, 10:54 AM

I'm in desperate need of 2 grip screws for my Unique. I've tried every parts dealer on the Internet with no luck. I even tried the local gunsmith/machinists to make me a set, again no luck.They appear to be harder to find/make then gold - does anyone have any idea where I might find one or two?
Thanks.

John Sabato · 09-12-2003, 11:33 AM

Monk69

Show us a photo of the type of Unique pistol you are talking about... they made more than one type... Then someone might be able to help.

If I were in your shoes ( I hope that they are at least 9.5 D ) I would take the frame only (whole pistols make people in stores nervous) and visit a real good tool store like MSC and have them determine the actual thread size... then you would at least know what size screws you are looking for... If they have the tap & die available, you could buy the die and use it to rethread a screw with a suitably sized head on it.

Then, if you can locate some screw of that thread you may be able to cut them to the proper length and at least make the gun serviceable.

One other thing you can do... if the gun is not really a collectable and you just want a shooter with grips that will stay on it, get some grip screws from a well known gun that might have the right size screwhead... a Luger or Colt perhaps? and then drill and tap the frame to fit the screws that are available... that might be your best bet in the long run provided the gun is a shooter and not collectable.

Ron Wood · 09-12-2003, 11:51 AM

I have had good luck in going to a hardware store that specializes in screws, bolts and other fasteners. The can't be all that hard to find since we have two here in El Paso and this town is about as one-horse as you can get. I find the right thread diameter and pitch (there are usually a wide selection of machine screws in both English and metric sizes) and get a screw with a head as large and thick as possible. It may take a little hunting and a patient clerk. Make sure to get screws with a much longer shank than you need, you can cut them to length later. Then I wrap the threads with tape and chuck it up in a drill or lathe and using a file I turn it down to the proper dimensions. You can buy jewelers files or slot cutting files to re-cut the slot. I have done this on a couple of occasions where I couldn't find proper grip screws. Worked pretty well and with an older gun that is somewhat worn, cold blue on the reshaped and polished screw heads looks OK.

Roadkill · 09-12-2003, 12:20 PM

See if you can find a typewriter repair shop. I used to bring guns by one regularly to get replacement screws for mine.

rk

jamese · 09-12-2003, 02:07 PM

RK,
Finding a Typewriter repair shop these days might be harder to find than the screws. (Thanks to computers)

Monk69,
I think any michine shop worth their salt should be able to make some michine screws to fit what your looking for.
Try going to a high school michine shop class and have them make the screws as part of a class project.

Their always looking for worth while projects to keep the kids busy.

Jim

jamese · 09-12-2003, 02:08 PM

Ron Wood,
Please check your PM concering another issue

thanks,
Jim

John Sabato · 09-12-2003, 02:52 PM

jamese,

The high school or votech shop project idea is a Great one... this would be a fine way to get a lot of small parts like pins and screws produced for the price of the raw materials...

You are also right about teachers always looking for worthwhile projects... my wife is a technology teacher and has a real time finding computer-related things for kids to do when the school computer network or internet access is not functional...that doesn't require Computers!

Shop teachers would be no different...want to give them a REAL challenge? Give them a stripped Luger sideplate and tell them to duplicate it!

monk69 · 09-16-2003, 09:28 AM

All,
Thanks for the advise. i had hoped a Unique collector might have surfaced with a set of screws, but I guess I'll have to do it the hard way. I like the H.S. machine shop idea. My neighbors the principal at the local H.S.and he agreed to see what they can do. I'll let you know.
monk69

09-12-2003, 10:54 AM	#1
monk69 User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: pennsylvania Posts: 32 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Unique Kreigsmodel grip screws I'm in desperate need of 2 grip screws for my Unique. I've tried every parts dealer on the Internet with no luck. I even tried the local gunsmith/machinists to make me a set, again no luck.They appear to be harder to find/make then gold - does anyone have any idea where I might find one or two? Thanks.

09-12-2003, 11:33 AM	#2
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	Monk69 Show us a photo of the type of Unique pistol you are talking about... they made more than one type... Then someone might be able to help. If I were in your shoes ( I hope that they are at least 9.5 D ) I would take the frame only (whole pistols make people in stores nervous) and visit a real good tool store like MSC and have them determine the actual thread size... then you would at least know what size screws you are looking for... If they have the tap & die available, you could buy the die and use it to rethread a screw with a suitably sized head on it. Then, if you can locate some screw of that thread you may be able to cut them to the proper length and at least make the gun serviceable. One other thing you can do... if the gun is not really a collectable and you just want a shooter with grips that will stay on it, get some grip screws from a well known gun that might have the right size screwhead... a Luger or Colt perhaps? and then drill and tap the frame to fit the screws that are available... that might be your best bet in the long run provided the gun is a shooter and not collectable. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

09-12-2003, 11:51 AM	#3
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,257 Times in 1,724 Posts	I have had good luck in going to a hardware store that specializes in screws, bolts and other fasteners. The can't be all that hard to find since we have two here in El Paso and this town is about as one-horse as you can get. I find the right thread diameter and pitch (there are usually a wide selection of machine screws in both English and metric sizes) and get a screw with a head as large and thick as possible. It may take a little hunting and a patient clerk. Make sure to get screws with a much longer shank than you need, you can cut them to length later. Then I wrap the threads with tape and chuck it up in a drill or lathe and using a file I turn it down to the proper dimensions. You can buy jewelers files or slot cutting files to re-cut the slot. I have done this on a couple of occasions where I couldn't find proper grip screws. Worked pretty well and with an older gun that is somewhat worn, cold blue on the reshaped and polished screw heads looks OK. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

09-12-2003, 02:07 PM	#5
jamese User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: South Florida Posts: 792 Thanks: 0 Thanked 86 Times in 36 Posts	RK, Finding a Typewriter repair shop these days might be harder to find than the screws. (Thanks to computers) Monk69, I think any michine shop worth their salt should be able to make some michine screws to fit what your looking for. Try going to a high school michine shop class and have them make the screws as part of a class project. Their always looking for worth while projects to keep the kids busy. Jim __________________ The "truth" is a matter of Perception

09-12-2003, 02:08 PM	#6
jamese User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: South Florida Posts: 792 Thanks: 0 Thanked 86 Times in 36 Posts	Ron Wood, Please check your PM concering another issue thanks, Jim __________________ The "truth" is a matter of Perception

09-12-2003, 12:20 PM	#4
Roadkill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,634 Thanks: 1 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts	See if you can find a typewriter repair shop. I used to bring guns by one regularly to get replacement screws for mine. rk

09-12-2003, 02:52 PM	#7
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	jamese, The high school or votech shop project idea is a Great one... this would be a fine way to get a lot of small parts like pins and screws produced for the price of the raw materials... You are also right about teachers always looking for worthwhile projects... my wife is a technology teacher and has a real time finding computer-related things for kids to do when the school computer network or internet access is not functional...that doesn't require Computers! Shop teachers would be no different...want to give them a REAL challenge? *Give them a stripped Luger sideplate and tell them to duplicate it!* __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

09-16-2003, 09:28 AM	#8
monk69 User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: pennsylvania Posts: 32 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	All, Thanks for the advise. i had hoped a Unique collector might have surfaced with a set of screws, but I guess I'll have to do it the hard way. I like the H.S. machine shop idea. My neighbors the principal at the local H.S.and he agreed to see what they can do. I'll let you know. monk69

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