Some Comments & Questions on Ammo

Doubs · 08-25-2002, 07:42 PM

[quote]Originally posted by Roadkill:
<strong>Being that the trials in 1907 were among if not the first ever using semiauto pistols in new calibers, how do we know what acceptable was to the the testors? They didn't have the data to compare. Just curious as to what standards they might have used.
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RK</strong><hr></blockquote>

RK, the various tests used for both the 1900 .30 Caliber Lugers and the 1907 .45 Luger are in Datig's book "The Luger Pistol". There is simply too much for me to type but the 1907 tests included:

velocity @ 25 ft; accuracy & penetration @ 75 ft; rapidity with accuracy shooting at a 6x2 ft target at 100 ft; rapidity at will without regard for "hits"; endurance during the firing of 500 rounds with a cooling period after each 50 rounds; decreased charges; excessive charges; pierced primers; dust test whereby a blast of fine sand will be blown onto the pistol in a specially prepared box for 1 minute after which the pistol may be wiped off, shook or jarred using the bare hand only; rust test with the pistol completely degreased by boiling in a solution of soda and then placed in a solution of sal-ammoniac for 5 minutes and then hung indoors for 22 hours. The pistol will then be fired 5 shots. Supplimentary tests authorized for pistols successfully completing the tests as seen fit by the board.

There's much more to the report and procedures but the above will give you a general idea of the tests used.

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08-25-2002, 07:42 PM	#11
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,736 Thanks: 819 Thanked 1,769 Times in 586 Posts	[quote]Originally posted by Roadkill: <strong>Being that the trials in 1907 were among if not the first ever using semiauto pistols in new calibers, how do we know what acceptable was to the the testors? They didn't have the data to compare. Just curious as to what standards they might have used. [img]smile.gif[/img] RK</strong><hr></blockquote> RK, the various tests used for both the 1900 .30 Caliber Lugers and the 1907 .45 Luger are in Datig's book "The Luger Pistol". There is simply too much for me to type but the 1907 tests included: velocity @ 25 ft; accuracy & penetration @ 75 ft; rapidity with accuracy shooting at a 6x2 ft target at 100 ft; rapidity at will without regard for "hits"; endurance during the firing of 500 rounds with a cooling period after each 50 rounds; decreased charges; excessive charges; pierced primers; dust test whereby a blast of fine sand will be blown onto the pistol in a specially prepared box for 1 minute after which the pistol may be wiped off, shook or jarred using the bare hand only; rust test with the pistol completely degreased by boiling in a solution of soda and then placed in a solution of sal-ammoniac for 5 minutes and then hung indoors for 22 hours. The pistol will then be fired 5 shots. Supplimentary tests authorized for pistols successfully completing the tests as seen fit by the board. There's much more to the report and procedures but the above will give you a general idea of the tests used.