Holster Question for Jerry......

G.T. · 02-03-2004, 09:26 PM

Hi Jerry! I've never been to fond of WW1 Luger holsters... but, lately I've been looking at some of them a little harder, and I'm getting a little warmer toward tha WW1 style... I've noticed small differences, like a different (smaller) size clip pouch, and the way it is designed, added on, and not built in, as part of the back... also, WW1 holsters look a little smaller??? and the covers look less bulky...Now for the question? Which type do you prefer?? WW1 or WW2... which is easier to work on?? Just wondering... Best to ya Jerry, til...lat'r....GT

lugerholsterrepair · 02-03-2004, 11:47 PM

GT, Thanks for your inquiry...Believe it, there is a lot more to your question than you realize.

Both holsters are made quite a bit differently as you say. The magazine pouch is the heart of the Luger holster and as such, the two different era holsters differ in how this is built in. The WW2 model has the additional panel built into the back to support the Magazine pouch and this adds an extra line of stitching. A good idea but more work to put in place.

The WW1 era holster used a seperate hinge to connect the top to the body unlike the WW2 which went to a hinge incorporated into the back panel. If this back panel hinge cracks or breaks it is very troublesome to change as it is not a seperate piece that can be replaced easily.All Artillery's are of the ww1 style and the Imperial Navy has no hinge really but uses the top flap edge as a hinge.

There are pro's and cons to each I suppose but none of them are easy to work on. They require a great deal of time , patience and research as well as color matching.

I just finished making a complete set of Artillery leathers for a client , matched the leather color to the holster and fitted it to his holster and stock.I hand hammered the rivets for the boot and strap just as the Germans did. Hand stitched the double layers of the boot with linen thread. It was pure joy to see this all come together to complete what was was missing and make this rig complete.
I enjoy every stitch and I get to see many holsters other collectors only dream about having in their hands.

I guess I would have to say I prefer the WW1 era because of the great variety. Imperial Navy's, stocked Artillery's, Reichrevolver conversions, Carbine cases and the list goes on...Jerry Burney

Pete Ebbink · 02-04-2004, 04:41 PM

Hello Gerry,

Not sure if you have a copy of Eugene Bender's book on Luger holsters...(this is the big book, his 2nd. book, I believe...). They run used around $ 40-50 and new for $ 75-80...

I did not have much of an appreciation for holsters during the 1st. year of my luger affliction...

But I was at the Bob & Brad Simpson shop in Galseburg and they had several brand new copies. I sneaked a peak into one of the books and could not believe such a variety of holsters for the luger from so many countries existed ! Plinked my $ 75 bucks down and had a good read on the 4 hour flight back to my home...

It has really helped me decide where to focus my leather collecting activities...

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

G.T. · 02-04-2004, 08:02 PM

Hi Pete! thanks for the note on the book, but, I already have that one! I have a few nice holsters, but no WW1 holsters... I've even had a few nice ones that have come and gone... I think I'll collect a few...if possible! Best to you, Jerry and Pete! til...lat'r....GT

Navy · 02-05-2004, 07:37 AM

Guys,

I am on record here as saying many times, the leather is rarer than the guns..and generally a better investment. I have Imperial Navy holsters and rigs that I will not part with until I am toe-tagged.

My advice is to buy the very best holsters you can find and hang on to them...you won't regret it and you will get a nice return if you decide to sell a few years later.

Tom A.

02-03-2004, 09:26 PM	#1
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,528 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 3,711 Times in 1,014 Posts	Holster Question for Jerry...... Hi Jerry! I've never been to fond of WW1 Luger holsters... but, lately I've been looking at some of them a little harder, and I'm getting a little warmer toward tha WW1 style... I've noticed small differences, like a different (smaller) size clip pouch, and the way it is designed, added on, and not built in, as part of the back... also, WW1 holsters look a little smaller??? and the covers look less bulky...Now for the question? Which type do you prefer?? WW1 or WW2... which is easier to work on?? Just wondering... Best to ya Jerry, til...lat'r....GT

02-03-2004, 11:47 PM	#2
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	GT, Thanks for your inquiry...Believe it, there is a lot more to your question than you realize. Both holsters are made quite a bit differently as you say. The magazine pouch is the heart of the Luger holster and as such, the two different era holsters differ in how this is built in. The WW2 model has the additional panel built into the back to support the Magazine pouch and this adds an extra line of stitching. A good idea but more work to put in place. The WW1 era holster used a seperate hinge to connect the top to the body unlike the WW2 which went to a hinge incorporated into the back panel. If this back panel hinge cracks or breaks it is very troublesome to change as it is not a seperate piece that can be replaced easily.All Artillery's are of the ww1 style and the Imperial Navy has no hinge really but uses the top flap edge as a hinge. There are pro's and cons to each I suppose but none of them are easy to work on. They require a great deal of time , patience and research as well as color matching. I just finished making a complete set of Artillery leathers for a client , matched the leather color to the holster and fitted it to his holster and stock.I hand hammered the rivets for the boot and strap just as the Germans did. Hand stitched the double layers of the boot with linen thread. It was pure joy to see this all come together to complete what was was missing and make this rig complete. I enjoy every stitch and I get to see many holsters other collectors only dream about having in their hands. I guess I would have to say I prefer the WW1 era because of the great variety. Imperial Navy's, stocked Artillery's, Reichrevolver conversions, Carbine cases and the list goes on...Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

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02-04-2004, 04:41 PM	#3
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hello Gerry, Not sure if you have a copy of Eugene Bender's book on Luger holsters...(this is the big book, his 2nd. book, I believe...). They run used around $ 40-50 and new for $ 75-80... I did not have much of an appreciation for holsters during the 1st. year of my luger affliction... But I was at the Bob & Brad Simpson shop in Galseburg and they had several brand new copies. I sneaked a peak into one of the books and could not believe such a variety of holsters for the luger from so many countries existed ! Plinked my $ 75 bucks down and had a good read on the 4 hour flight back to my home... It has really helped me decide where to focus my leather collecting activities... Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

02-04-2004, 08:02 PM	#4
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,528 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 3,711 Times in 1,014 Posts	Hi Pete! thanks for the note on the book, but, I already have that one! I have a few nice holsters, but no WW1 holsters... I've even had a few nice ones that have come and gone... I think I'll collect a few...if possible! Best to you, Jerry and Pete! til...lat'r....GT

02-05-2004, 07:37 AM	#5
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Guys, I am on record here as saying many times, the leather is rarer than the guns..and generally a better investment. I have Imperial Navy holsters and rigs that I will not part with until I am toe-tagged. My advice is to buy the very best holsters you can find and hang on to them...you won't regret it and you will get a nice return if you decide to sell a few years later. Tom A.