Stainless Steel Stoeger Magazines

Sieger · 08-07-2003, 04:03 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by unspellable:
Some of the points I'm seeing here on cartridge OAL are interesting. Perhaps both the 9 mm and 7.65 mm cartrdiges as commercially loaded in the US have evolved (devolved?) into something other than Parabellum cartridges. It would go a long way towards explaining the Parabellum's poor reputation for reliability as opposed to so many military organizations adopting it when they are not in the habit of adopting things that don't work.

You can't expect any pistol to work with ammo that is not to spec.<hr /></blockquote>Hi Unspellable:

Yes, nothing is currently loaded commercially to the original specs. OAL is a good part of the problem, the other part is the proper load.

For some reason, a lot of folks think that you have to shoot +P+ loads in a Luger to get them to operate. This isn't true.

The original load, the one that the springs were balanced to, was 123 grs. at 1020 low, 1073 high.

When I load ammo to these specs, I get 100% reliability and fantastic accuracy!!

Regarding the fact that so many armies adopted the Luger, no, the German and Swiss Armies are not in the habit of adopting weapons that don't function properly, let alone keeping a falty design for 40 to 50 years.

To me, a Luger is like a Porsche, keep it tuned and you will be very satisfied with its performance!!

Bob

08-07-2003, 04:03 PM	#10
Sieger User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 1,579 Thanks: 2,154 Thanked 402 Times in 251 Posts	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by unspellable: <strong>Some of the points I'm seeing here on cartridge OAL are interesting. Perhaps both the 9 mm and 7.65 mm cartrdiges as commercially loaded in the US have evolved (devolved?) into something other than Parabellum cartridges. It would go a long way towards explaining the Parabellum's poor reputation for reliability as opposed to so many military organizations adopting it when they are not in the habit of adopting things that don't work. You can't expect any pistol to work with ammo that is not to spec.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Hi Unspellable: Yes, nothing is currently loaded commercially to the original specs. OAL is a good part of the problem, the other part is the proper load. For some reason, a lot of folks think that you have to shoot +P+ loads in a Luger to get them to operate. This isn't true. The original load, the one that the springs were balanced to, was 123 grs. at 1020 low, 1073 high. When I load ammo to these specs, I get 100% reliability and fantastic accuracy!! Regarding the fact that so many armies adopted the Luger, no, the German and Swiss Armies are not in the habit of adopting weapons that don't function properly, let alone keeping a falty design for 40 to 50 years. To me, a Luger is like a Porsche, keep it tuned and you will be very satisfied with its performance!! Bob

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