new swiss variation

Pete Ebbink · 09-13-2003, 12:03 PM

Hello Roberto,

Thanks for the update. So no we know Vogelsang started inspecting before the type II thumb safety lever...hope someone that owns # 501 replies to your additional question.

J. Walther in his book, "The Luger Book" on page 282, states that Herr Vogelsang's tenure was from 1879-1912 at the Bern factory.

I noticed that on some Model 1882 Swiss revolvers they can also have a Cross/V in cartouce marking. I first thought that this was Vogelang's stamping as well.

But I asked on the SwissRifles.com discussion board, and the nice Swiss gun folks there said that is one theory, but it is not known for certain if Vogelsang inspected/stamped the M1882's.

Speculating that he did indeed inspect/stamp guns as early as 1879, as Walter indicates, then why do you suppose he was not involved in the early M1900 luger production guns...??? Other duties, illness, vacation, etc...? Maybe we will never know for certain...but I would think (placing myself in his shoes at thiat time in history) that Vogelsang would be too important a leader at Bern to miss the first run of M1900 production lugers coming through the factory floor...curious...

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

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09-13-2003, 12:03 PM	#1
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hello Roberto, Thanks for the update. So no we know Vogelsang started inspecting before the type II thumb safety lever...hope someone that owns # 501 replies to your additional question. J. Walther in his book, "The Luger Book" on page 282, states that Herr Vogelsang's tenure was from 1879-1912 at the Bern factory. I noticed that on some Model 1882 Swiss revolvers they can also have a Cross/V in cartouce marking. I first thought that this was Vogelang's stamping as well. But I asked on the SwissRifles.com discussion board, and the nice Swiss gun folks there said that is one theory, but it is not known for certain if Vogelsang inspected/stamped the M1882's. Speculating that he did indeed inspect/stamp guns as early as 1879, as Walter indicates, then why do you suppose he was not involved in the early M1900 luger production guns...??? Other duties, illness, vacation, etc...? Maybe we will never know for certain...but I would think (placing myself in his shoes at thiat time in history) that Vogelsang would be too important a leader at Bern to miss the first run of M1900 production lugers coming through the factory floor...curious... Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />