Simson Blowback Where is it now????

fg42 · 05-15-2003, 12:17 AM

I was looking at an old issue of "Arms Gazette" DEC 1973 and I came to an article by R. Bretherton "How do you like your autos...well medium or RARE" picturing 7 autos like the Adler,.25 Savage etc. also included was a Simson 9mm blowback. I was wondering who owns it (or the other one known) now??? I know it's just 1/2 a Luger,but it's very interesting and I would like to know more about it. Thanks Bob Benson.

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John Sabato · 05-15-2003, 11:45 AM

Bob,

The caption says it uses a Luger magazine, but the gun is original... and does not use "half a Luger..."

Nice photo. I haven't seen this pistol previously and it would be interesting to know where it and it's mate #1 is today.

It sort of looks like a Glock, don't you think?

Jim Keenan · 05-16-2003, 10:46 PM

There is something there that is not being told. A pure blowback pistol with that size slide in 9mm would probably fire only one shot because the case would blow apart and wreck the gun.

Maybe it did, which would explain the welded frame.

Jim

fg42 · 05-25-2003, 09:59 PM

It seems to me that if in 1973 two of these were "known" That one of our members would know of one of them now. thanks Bob

John Sabato · 05-27-2003, 10:15 AM

Jim, The 9mm won't blow apart the casing if the pistol has been designed for its use in that manner... remember that virtually all 9mm submachineguns are blowback... and this cartridge has also successfully been used in blowback pistols... the first example that comes to mind is tha Astra 600 which was also pressed into service by the Germans in WW2.

This type of 9mm blowback pistol would require a "hefty" recoil spring... but I assure you that they function safely.

Ron Wood · 05-27-2003, 12:16 PM

Another very good and very rare 9mm blowback is the 1909 Dreyse. It had a spring so powerful that it incorporated a slide disconnect in the serrated cocking piece that allowed the slide to be cycled unlocked from the mainspring to load the first round. The photo of this beautiful example is from Bob Adams' website.

05-15-2003, 11:45 AM	#2
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	Bob, The caption says it uses a Luger magazine, but the gun is original... and does not use "half a Luger..." Nice photo. I haven't seen this pistol previously and it would be interesting to know where it and it's mate #1 is today. It sort of looks like a Glock, don't you think? __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

05-27-2003, 10:15 AM	#5
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	Jim, The 9mm won't blow apart the casing if the pistol has been designed for its use in that manner... remember that virtually all 9mm submachineguns are blowback... and this cartridge has also successfully been used in blowback pistols... the first example that comes to mind is tha Astra 600 which was also pressed into service by the Germans in WW2. This type of 9mm blowback pistol would require a "hefty" recoil spring... but I assure you that they function safely. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

05-27-2003, 12:16 PM	#6
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,257 Times in 1,724 Posts	Another very good and very rare 9mm blowback is the 1909 Dreyse. It had a spring so powerful that it incorporated a slide disconnect in the serrated cocking piece that allowed the slide to be cycled unlocked from the mainspring to load the first round. The photo of this beautiful example is from Bob Adams' website. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

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05-15-2003, 12:17 AM	#1
fg42 User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 90 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Simson Blowback Where is it now???? I was looking at an old issue of "Arms Gazette" DEC 1973 and I came to an article by R. Bretherton "How do you like your autos...well medium or RARE" picturing 7 autos like the Adler,.25 Savage etc. also included was a Simson 9mm blowback. I was wondering who owns it (or the other one known) now??? I know it's just 1/2 a Luger,but it's very interesting and I would like to know more about it. Thanks Bob Benson. (Photo reduced for better fit by Admin-JS)

05-16-2003, 10:46 PM	#3
Jim Keenan User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 184 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	There is something there that is not being told. A pure blowback pistol with that size slide in 9mm would probably fire only one shot because the case would blow apart and wreck the gun. Maybe it did, which would explain the welded frame. Jim

05-25-2003, 09:59 PM	#4
fg42 User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 90 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	It seems to me that if in 1973 two of these were "known" That one of our members would know of one of them now. thanks Bob