Black Widow Luger

Doubs · 05-06-2004, 02:19 AM

While I can't see enough to determine which, you have either an East German rework or a Russian capture pistol subsequently dip blued and new Russian-made plastic grips added. It's not a "Black Widow" which is only a name anyway made up by a collector to increase the sale value. The grip checkering appears to be too coarse to be WW2 German production.... which would be incorrect on an Erfurt WW1 production pistol anyway. It's also a "Double Date", bearing the "1920" Weimar Republic property stamp (it's NOT a date and it's NOT a "rework" stamp) over the original date of 1914. It's a recent import as indicated by the import markings on the right side of the frame.

If anywhere on it there's what appears to be a starburst surrounding a shield with numbers inside, it's an E. German rework. If the mag with it is numbered to the gun and has either a "1" or a "2" on it, it's likely an E. German rework or "VoPo" Luger..... "People's Police". The finish also suggests E. German.

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05-06-2004, 02:19 AM	#4
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,742 Thanks: 826 Thanked 1,787 Times in 590 Posts	While I can't see enough to determine which, you have either an East German rework or a Russian capture pistol subsequently dip blued and new Russian-made plastic grips added. It's not a "Black Widow" which is only a name anyway made up by a collector to increase the sale value. The grip checkering appears to be too coarse to be WW2 German production.... which would be incorrect on an Erfurt WW1 production pistol anyway. It's also a "Double Date", bearing the "1920" Weimar Republic property stamp (it's NOT a date and it's NOT a "rework" stamp) over the original date of 1914. It's a recent import as indicated by the import markings on the right side of the frame. If anywhere on it there's what appears to be a starburst surrounding a shield with numbers inside, it's an E. German rework. If the mag with it is numbered to the gun and has either a "1" or a "2" on it, it's likely an E. German rework or "VoPo" Luger..... "People's Police". The finish also suggests E. German.