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09-24-2024, 08:50 PM
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Value? DWM Commercial Army 1 of 450
I have a 1913/14 DWM Commercial/ Army serial 69934. It's apparently one of 450 or so made. Jan Still had #69911 that I was interested in buying, but it sold immediately. Seeing his got me looking around to try to find a value and there simply haven't been any recent sales. So, how do I value mine? I see the recent Rock Island sales of some of Jan Still's collection. Collectibility, I assume, is based on scarcity. So his Commercial Krieghoff (1 of 200) with 2 matching mags fetched $38,188. Certainly a rarity and priced as such. Second highest was a 1 of 1500 Bulgarian 1906 at $22,325. In very high condition for pistols of that contract but in similar condition to my Commercial/ Army. A 1/1000 1900 American Eagle US Army test w/ holster sold for $18,800. And a 1902 Prussian Army test 1/50 sold for $16,450. An incredibly nice Commercial Krieghoff with 1 matching mag 1/200 sold for $12,925 and seemed a bargain compared to the similar one from the same series. A 1908 Bulgarian Luger 1/10,000 in lower condition sold for $5,288. I assume these numbers are without buyer premium or sales tax. Pics of mine:
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09-24-2024, 09:41 PM
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Would need to see more pictures, but the import mark on the left side will be a detriment to value for many though.
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09-29-2024, 10:46 PM
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A reasonable valuation would be in the neighborhood of $4,5400. You would be lucky to get that if you tried to sell.
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09-30-2024, 12:12 PM
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Thank you both for your replies.
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09-30-2024, 02:25 PM
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I agree with Dwight...I have #69879 in the same configuration and markings as yours that I have placed a value of $4500 on it in my inventory.
Ron P.S. HerrKaiser, what import mark? I don't see any. There are at least 3 variations of the C/X C/X C/X marked Lugers that were routed from commercial production to military use during the build up in armament during late 1913 to early 1914.
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09-30-2024, 02:34 PM
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Ron, first pic, left frame, directly above take down lever, "GERMANY" is what I believe HerrKaiser is referring to. Need to enlarge pic to see it.
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09-30-2024, 03:57 PM
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Quote:
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09-30-2024, 04:19 PM
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Yes it was that Germany stamp that I was referring to. Unless I am mistaken and that one has a specific meaning on a gun like this one as a commercial military?
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09-30-2024, 06:18 PM
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Got a better pic of the "Germany" mark?
And to others, how much, if any, would the 'Germany' mark decrease the value vs an example like this without the 'Germany' mark? |
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09-30-2024, 06:44 PM
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For a gun in the condition of this one, I would say $50-$100 if you were being really picky. The gun is a very nicely preserved example that ended being sold on the commercial market which required the GERMANY stamp.
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10-02-2024, 08:05 AM
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even more pics!
What are your thoughts on the finish in the right side where I'm pointing? Was that from when the slide stop was added?
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10-02-2024, 03:11 PM
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Mismatched sear bar as well (seeing a 95)
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