New Jersey Law Prohibiting Many Firearms

calibrator · 06-22-2023, 10:45 AM

I'll consider myself LUCKY to live another 10-15 yrs. Graduating High School in 1971, you can imagine the type of society that formed me and my value system. I always say I'm glad that my parents passed 25+yrs ago, and aren't around to witness what we've allowed to happen to our Society. I feel even greater sadness for the millions who died fighting WWII if they could somehow see not only the massive decline of the US, but the rest of the Free World as well.

Fatalism

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Fatalism is a family of related philosophical doctrines that stress the subjugation of all events or actions to fate or destiny, and is commonly associated with the consequent attitude of resignation …

Anymore, I'd say I'm a Fatalist. The "System" is too entrenched to be overturned. Small victories are won against it occasionally, but it plays the long game. We've allowed the pendulum to swing TOO far in a certain direction, and it's being held back by the "System".

Huxley and Orwell certainly were visionaries. It was only during the "LockDowns" that I first read "1984" and "Brave New World". There is a movie version of "1984" that stars Richard Burton when he was in his full-blown alcoholism phase, and it has an alternant sound track by the Eurythmics. I liked the movie a lot, however I wished that I had seen the movie first so I would have had a more vivid mental picture of the real horror while I was reading the book.

"1984" lives today. The main character has a job (as do many others) were they must constantly re-write history as well as "disappearing" people who fall out of favor with the Regime. War between 3 world powers is what controls everything/everybody. Cameras everywhere, even in the homes. How could Orwell have known almost to a T our current situation???

grantman · 06-24-2023, 04:22 AM

The real problem is the fact that irrationalism has been given a place in public policy. All of the new movements such as critical theory, transgender ideology, student loan forgiveness, credit score offsetting and "equity" politics are rooted in irrationalism in that they are not rooted in objective facts.

I graduated HS in the mid-70s and college in the mid 80s. The following generations will create the world they want...it just wont be rooted in the concept of inalienable rights and consent of the governed.

1984 and Brave New World each offered a different form of totalitarianism....one based on control through fear and the other based on control by giving people what they crave.

calibrator · 06-24-2023, 09:51 AM

Yeah grantman, "1984" was fear, "Brave New World" was pleasure and excess for control. I'd say we have the Double-Whammy in our current situation. I'm trying to figure out which category the soft-on-crime posture and glorifying one domestic terrorist element while vilifying another fits in, or is it in it's own realm. To me the answer is obvious, just not politically acceptable currently.

06-24-2023, 04:22 AM	#2
grantman User Join Date: May 2019 Location: Northern Idaho Posts: 84 Thanks: 2 Thanked 34 Times in 22 Posts	1984 lives The real problem is the fact that irrationalism has been given a place in public policy. All of the new movements such as critical theory, transgender ideology, student loan forgiveness, credit score offsetting and "equity" politics are rooted in irrationalism in that they are not rooted in objective facts. I graduated HS in the mid-70s and college in the mid 80s. The following generations will create the world they want...it just wont be rooted in the concept of inalienable rights and consent of the governed. 1984 and Brave New World each offered a different form of totalitarianism....one based on control through fear and the other based on control by giving people what they crave.

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06-22-2023, 10:45 AM	#1
calibrator User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cave Creek Posts: 315 Thanks: 55 Thanked 244 Times in 93 Posts	I'll consider myself LUCKY to live another 10-15 yrs. Graduating High School in 1971, you can imagine the type of society that formed me and my value system. I always say I'm glad that my parents passed 25+yrs ago, and aren't around to witness what we've allowed to happen to our Society. I feel even greater sadness for the millions who died fighting WWII if they could somehow see not only the massive decline of the US, but the rest of the Free World as well. Fatalism Philosophical doctrines Fatalism is a family of related philosophical doctrines that stress the subjugation of all events or actions to fate or destiny, and is commonly associated with the consequent attitude of resignation … Anymore, I'd say I'm a Fatalist. The "System" is too entrenched to be overturned. Small victories are won against it occasionally, but it plays the long game. We've allowed the pendulum to swing TOO far in a certain direction, and it's being held back by the "System". Huxley and Orwell certainly were visionaries. It was only during the "LockDowns" that I first read "1984" and "Brave New World". There is a movie version of "1984" that stars Richard Burton when he was in his full-blown alcoholism phase, and it has an alternant sound track by the Eurythmics. I liked the movie a lot, however I wished that I had seen the movie first so I would have had a more vivid mental picture of the real horror while I was reading the book. "1984" lives today. The main character has a job (as do many others) were they must constantly re-write history as well as "disappearing" people who fall out of favor with the Regime. War between 3 world powers is what controls everything/everybody. Cameras everywhere, even in the homes. How could Orwell have known almost to a T our current situation???

06-24-2023, 09:51 AM	#3
calibrator User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cave Creek Posts: 315 Thanks: 55 Thanked 244 Times in 93 Posts	Yeah grantman, "1984" was fear, "Brave New World" was pleasure and excess for control. I'd say we have the Double-Whammy in our current situation. I'm trying to figure out which category the soft-on-crime posture and glorifying one domestic terrorist element while vilifying another fits in, or is it in it's own realm. To me the answer is obvious, just not politically acceptable currently.