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Old 03-03-2021, 09:25 AM   #11
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All true Kiwi.

However, I am not helpless. When I moved here, I gave up the right, as an American, to protect myself by means of a gun, since self defense using a gun is not recognized here as an absolute right.

I believe that there have been situations where a person under threat (e.g. a shopkeeper) has shot an attacker in self defense using a gun, where the shopkeeper was convicted of illegal possession of a firearm, and not for the shooting of the attacker. I can imagine a similar scenario where a person using a legally owned firearm would see a similar result- being convicted of the illegal transport of a loaded firearm, or of an unloaded firearm together with a readily available loaded magazine. (Both illegal here)
As for me, I transport my firearms with the understanding that they cannot be used in self defense. Unloaded, ammo separate, empty mags.
And yes, every firearm should be handled and stored assuming it is loaded.

I’m glad you folks are making me think. That’s good.
A Google search of “legal means of self defense in the Netherlands” yields some interesting results!
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