Luger Variety - Page 2

HerrKaiser · 02-18-2021, 05:21 PM

I will give it a go on a possible combo...

1. DWM Luger Carbine model 1900 (caliber 7.65 mm, 12" barrel)
2. Erfurt LP.08 (caliber 9mm, 8" barrel)
3. 1906/29 W+F Bern (caliber .30, 4.75" barrel)
4. Krieghoff P.08 (caliber 9mm, 4" barrel)
5. Vickers LTD Luger (9mm, 4")
6. Simson P.08 (9mm, 4")
7. Mauser Parabellum 06/73 (9mm or 7.65, 6" barrel)

The hangups I ran into are whether or not to count the carbine, much less to include super rare items like the .45 US 1907 Test Luger or or the "baby" Lugers, and how to account for a 6" barrel as only post-war Mauser Parabellums and DWM Navy guns (commercial or military) came that way from the factory as I recall.

Ron Wood · 02-18-2021, 05:33 PM

Quintin,
Now you know why I didn't try to come up with a list!

Ron
P.S. Not sure Reese thought it all the way through either

Dwight Gruber · 02-18-2021, 06:04 PM

DWM = 3
Navy (6-inch)
LP08 (8-inch)
Alphabet Commercial (3 ¾-inch)

Erfurt = 1
P08 (4-inch, 9mm)

Simson = 1

Mauser = 1

Berne = 1
(4 ¾ inch, 7,65mm)

Total = 7

If you include Vickers it stretches to 8.

--Dwight

HerrKaiser · 02-18-2021, 06:15 PM

Dwight,

If you include Krieghoff, it goes up to 9. But Erfurt could just be the LP.08 and drop it back down to 8 again.

m1903a3 · 02-18-2021, 08:46 PM

Imperial Navies - back in 2014

I need to update it.

MFC · 02-18-2021, 08:53 PM

Ya'll forgot Spandau.

Mac Cat · 02-18-2021, 09:07 PM

1) 1900 AE
2) Navy (6" or 8")
3) Swiss Alphabet
4) Simson
5) 41, 42 or byf
6) LP.08
7) 1970s Mauser

My personal goal was 8 different banners or chamber stamps.
Thanks to some of you here, I have one of each of these now.

The varieties and accessories for the Luger is what continues to fascinate me.

spripple33 · 02-19-2021, 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m1903a3

Imperial Navies - back in 2014

I need to update it.

Wow... (drooling) Impressive display!!! (slobbering, barely coherent)

-Jason

tharpo · 02-19-2021, 07:36 PM

Filled in some missing Banner variations in my first post on gunbugs recommendation.

cirelaw · 02-19-2021, 08:17 PM

Years AGO

gunbugs · 02-19-2021, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tharpo

Filled in some missing Banner variations in my first post on gunbugs recommendation.

My hero! I love a Banner for some strange reason.

gunbugs · 02-19-2021, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m1903a3

Imperial Navies - back in 2014

I need to update it.

Absolutely fantastic! My heart skips a beat. 6" navies are the prettiest, in my opinion.

spripple33 · 02-20-2021, 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gunbugs

Absolutely fantastic! My heart skips a beat. 6" navies are the prettiest, in my opinion.

Gunbugs, I agree 100%.

Lugerdoc · 02-20-2021, 02:27 PM

Ron, At least 4 DWMs would be required for the barrel lengths of 12"(300mm), 8"(200mm),6"(150), 4&3/4"(120mm); so the DWM carbine, Artillery, Navy and M1900 would cover one manufacture, 4 barrel lengths, both calibers and 4 differ rear sight variations. So one pistol each from Erfurt, Simson, Mauser and Kreighoff will cover the remaining manufactures and the 4" (100mm) barrel length for a total of 7 pistols. TH

Lugerdoc · 02-20-2021, 02:34 PM

Ron, At least 4 DWMs would be required for the barrel lengths of 12"(300mm), 8"(200mm),6"(150), 4&3/4"(120mm); so the DWM carbine, Artillery, Navy and M1900 would cover one manufacture, 4 barrel lengths, both calibers and 4 differ rear sight variations. So one pistol each from Erfurt, Simson, Mauser and Kreighoff will cover the remaining manufactures and the 4" (100mm) barrel length for a total of 7 pistols. I see the Cirelaw shows a photo of all of them above. TH

gunbugs · 02-20-2021, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lugerdoc

Ron, At least 4 DWMs would be required for the barrel lengths of 12"(300mm), 8"(200mm),6"(150), 4&3/4"(120mm); so the DWM carbine, Artillery, Navy and M1900 would cover one manufacture, 4 barrel lengths, both calibers and 4 differ rear sight variations. So one pistol each from Erfurt, Simson, Mauser and Kreighoff will cover the remaining manufactures and the 4" (100mm) barrel length for a total of 7 pistols. I see the Cirelaw shows a photo of all of them above. TH

You'll still need a Swiss Bern made gun, for a mfg.

HerrKaiser · 02-20-2021, 06:24 PM

And Erfurt can still satisfy the LP.08 requirement.

cirelaw · 02-21-2021, 12:03 PM

Differnt barrel lenghts

Heinz · 02-22-2021, 11:14 AM

I believe there are two different barrel lengths in the Alphabet commercial lugers, a 3 7/8 inch and a 3 3/4 inch. At least that is what I have observed.

Kiwi · 02-22-2021, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lugerdoc

Ron, At least 4 DWMs would be required for the barrel lengths of 12"(300mm), 8"(200mm),6"(150), 4&3/4"(120mm); so the DWM carbine, Artillery, Navy and M1900 would cover one manufacture, 4 barrel lengths, both calibers and 4 differ rear sight variations. So one pistol each from Erfurt, Simson, Mauser and Kreighoff will cover the remaining manufactures and the 4" (100mm) barrel length for a total of 7 pistols. I see the Cirelaw shows a photo of all of them above. TH

I am confused - Maybe it is my math

4 DWMs for lengths
- 12in
- 8in
- 6in
- 4 3/4
5 additional manufacturers
Erfurt
Simson
Kreighoff
Mauser
Bern

(Makes 9 with my math
Unless Erfurt/Simson/Kreighoff count as 1 set of machines)

02-18-2021, 05:21 PM	#21
HerrKaiser User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: South Carolina Posts: 889 Thanks: 837 Thanked 898 Times in 435 Posts	I will give it a go on a possible combo... 1. DWM Luger Carbine model 1900 (caliber 7.65 mm, 12" barrel) 2. Erfurt LP.08 (caliber 9mm, 8" barrel) 3. 1906/29 W+F Bern (caliber .30, 4.75" barrel) 4. Krieghoff P.08 (caliber 9mm, 4" barrel) 5. Vickers LTD Luger (9mm, 4") 6. Simson P.08 (9mm, 4") 7. Mauser Parabellum 06/73 (9mm or 7.65, 6" barrel) The hangups I ran into are whether or not to count the carbine, much less to include super rare items like the .45 US 1907 Test Luger or or the "baby" Lugers, and how to account for a 6" barrel as only post-war Mauser Parabellums and DWM Navy guns (commercial or military) came that way from the factory as I recall. __________________ -QM

02-18-2021, 05:33 PM	#22
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,051 Thanks: 1,120 Thanked 5,287 Times in 1,728 Posts	Quintin, Now you know why I didn't try to come up with a list! Ron P.S. Not sure Reese thought it all the way through either __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

02-18-2021, 06:15 PM	#24
HerrKaiser User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: South Carolina Posts: 889 Thanks: 837 Thanked 898 Times in 435 Posts	Dwight, If you include Krieghoff, it goes up to 9. But Erfurt could just be the LP.08 and drop it back down to 8 again. __________________ -QM

02-18-2021, 08:53 PM	#26
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Ya'll forgot Spandau. __________________ Mike C.

02-20-2021, 02:27 PM	#34
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	Ron, At least 4 DWMs would be required for the barrel lengths of 12"(300mm), 8"(200mm),6"(150), 4&3/4"(120mm); so the DWM carbine, Artillery, Navy and M1900 would cover one manufacture, 4 barrel lengths, both calibers and 4 differ rear sight variations. So one pistol each from Erfurt, Simson, Mauser and Kreighoff will cover the remaining manufactures and the 4" (100mm) barrel length for a total of 7 pistols. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

02-18-2021, 06:04 PM	#23
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,908 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,330 Times in 435 Posts	DWM = 3 Navy (6-inch) LP08 (8-inch) Alphabet Commercial (3 ¾-inch) Erfurt = 1 P08 (4-inch, 9mm) Simson = 1 Mauser = 1 Berne = 1 (4 ¾ inch, 7,65mm) Total = 7 If you include Vickers it stretches to 8. --Dwight

02-18-2021, 09:07 PM	#27
Mac Cat Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 770 Thanks: 2,191 Thanked 657 Times in 351 Posts	1) 1900 AE 2) Navy (6" or 8") 3) Swiss Alphabet 4) Simson 5) 41, 42 or byf 6) LP.08 7) 1970s Mauser My personal goal was 8 different banners or chamber stamps. Thanks to some of you here, I have one of each of these now. The varieties and accessories for the Luger is what continues to fascinate me.

02-19-2021, 07:36 PM	#29
tharpo Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: West Coast, USA Posts: 544 Thanks: 118 Thanked 383 Times in 158 Posts	Filled in some missing Banner variations in my first post on gunbugs recommendation.

02-20-2021, 02:34 PM	#35
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	Ron, At least 4 DWMs would be required for the barrel lengths of 12"(300mm), 8"(200mm),6"(150), 4&3/4"(120mm); so the DWM carbine, Artillery, Navy and M1900 would cover one manufacture, 4 barrel lengths, both calibers and 4 differ rear sight variations. So one pistol each from Erfurt, Simson, Mauser and Kreighoff will cover the remaining manufactures and the 4" (100mm) barrel length for a total of 7 pistols. I see the Cirelaw shows a photo of all of them above. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

02-20-2021, 06:24 PM	#37
HerrKaiser User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: South Carolina Posts: 889 Thanks: 837 Thanked 898 Times in 435 Posts	And Erfurt can still satisfy the LP.08 requirement. __________________ -QM

02-22-2021, 11:14 AM	#39
Heinz User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Greenville SC Posts: 1,004 Thanks: 377 Thanked 411 Times in 180 Posts	I believe there are two different barrel lengths in the Alphabet commercial lugers, a 3 7/8 inch and a 3 3/4 inch. At least that is what I have observed.

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