New to forum - need help with valuation

[RockinWR]

Jim S.,
* Preface all that follows with "IMHO". One humble plot point.
* Per Jan Still, TRL, the 1936 S/N Range is 5000f-4500p(No "j" block). #726k =35,726th made of 89,500. Assuming linear production, this example made the 146th day. May 25, 1936 give or take a month. Safest to say the 2nd Qtr. of 1936 given S/N range approximations, intermixed year date transitions, acceptance/repair lags, weekend/holidays, parts accel/delays, etc.
* Likewise, the 1938 S/N Range is 400b-4500n. #8002c =17,602nd made of 113,800. Assuming linear production, this example made the 57th day = Feb. 26, 1938 give or take a month. Safest to say the 1st Qtr. of 1938.
* Did not find a matching mag on the lists I have for either S/N reported.
* Correct my assumptions if errored, the mag tubes are both blue tubed, Al. based, & side pinned (Mauser Military Type II). If so, mag 3539b w/ sE/63 was made early 1938 & would best fit your 8002c pistol. The "plus" indicates this to be the second or spare mag. If commensurate to the 1936 pistol's condition, say about $75-$85. Insure for $100.
* Type 2, blue tube, Mag 311t would be awfully late for a sE/83 as this Inspector shows up in the 1938 "g-h" block, is most prevalent in the "i-n" block, and fades away in the "o-p" block. Dust/Rust can make the open top lobe of a "6" look like an "8". If the mag's "t" is an "i" and the acceptance is truely a sE/83, than made in the middle of 1938. If the "t" is right and the acceptance is truely sE/63; than, two choices - 1937 or 1939. The size of the sE/63 will determine which year. See/search a Forum post entitled "Mauser 42 Kreigsmarine Marked Luger" which ran in Jan., 2002. If the mag pictures, posted by Hugh @ the end of this thread are still viewable, please report whether the sE/63 is small, medium or large. If commensurate to the 1938 pistol's condition, say about $85-$95. Insure for $125.
* Unless the numbers are overly large, the wood based mag #444 is most likely a DWM P.08 mag. made around WWI. If minty, insure for $125.
* Nice holsters. The bml/41 PT.08 was made by Hans Romer in Neu-Ulm (Donau) and accepted by Inspector sE/788 in 1941. Seems to be missing a pull-up strap. Rate "good", value at $125-175 and insure @$200.
* The cdg/41 PT.08 was made by Auwaeter & Brubeck of Stutgart and accepted by Inspector sE/101 in 1941. Rate "VG", value at $175-225 and insure @$250.
* Never ran across a tool marked sE/866. Suggest you check this again. A sE/655 is a recognized, Mauser located, Inspector in the 1940-1941 period. Rate "??-VG-??", value at $45-55 and insure @ $75.
* Have to rate the 1936 @ about 75-80% due to the light pitting/blue loss. $700-800 roughly.
* The 1938 looks like a strong 90+% to 95% not withstanding unseen grip straps. I'm assuming both commensurate to the picture, no touch blue, and all numbers match. $850-950 roughly.
* So, round numbers, insure the 1936 for $1250 and the 1938 rig for $1500.
* A number of sources can be touched to bracket the values you're seeking. www.bluebookinc.com, www.simpsonltd.com, www.collectsfirearms.com, the auction sites, etc. Each has a risk/reward relationship to evaluate linked to the degree of arms length distance, credibility, experience, and time expended.
* So - what did the quickie appraisals say?? If you've not learned how to field strip these, the Forum's posts/Tech Info can help. Good for bore clean & to confirm Inside S/N's as also being matched. Should have the last two digits on the F/Pin, holdopen, trigger, and toggle pin. Grips may also be numbered inside. Sometime not with only a S/E acceptance or factory Inspectors letter/numeral.
* I trust you are not storing these in their holsters. Leather can hold moisture. The 1936 may have suffered this condition at some point in its history. I clean my P.08's with either Hoppes or Breakfree. If Long term storage I use RIG after cleaning.
* Trust this helps. Haven't bought a P.08 up in Wi. lately. Others should add/adjust the $'s for region/experience/etc. if warranted.
Respectfully,
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