Now its my turn: Ortgies

Ron Wood · 11-16-2019, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Zorba

Eugen's grips and mag have "made the scene"!

They both look great, I'm going to clean the grips with Murphy's, then put a coat of TruOil on them.

Sounds good, just don't add any mascara. And post some completed photos.
Ron

Eugen · 11-17-2019, 06:24 PM

Zorba, I am glad you are pleased with the mag and grips. I was glad to share some extra grips and mag in my inventory. I frankly had too many. I've been helped by so many good folks on this forum and i saw an opportunity to help another forum member.

Remember without photos, it didn't happen.

Zorba · 11-18-2019, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Eugen

Remember without photos, it didn't happen.

I'm still waiting for the gun to ship, but I do have one coat of TruOil on the grips now. Had to hide my mascara first though...

Zorba · 11-22-2019, 09:40 PM

Here's the picture with my other pair of .32s, and Eugen's grips mounted. Turns out the grips that were on it are actually, genuine Franzite! Which means they've been on the gun for some years most likely. Wonder as to the how/why of it all.

Anyway, the gun looks even better in person that it does in pictures, the BBL was dirty but cleaned right up and looks brand new! The piece does have a broken firing pin, which isn't terribly surprising - a re-pop FP is on order.

Now this may not be "news" to anyone here, but my research led me to believe that keeping control of the FP and its spring during reassembly can be a chore. Not true - see this short video for details:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swQ8UTRn6P8

Haven't seen that little detail about the FP spring assembly retaining notch anywhere else - makes it easy-peasy.

Eugen · 11-23-2019, 06:29 PM

Looking good!

Life is short when you are an Ortgies FP...and have to do extra duty as an ejector. I bought my 7,65 Ortgies on impulse at a local gun show. After I got it home I discovered that Fred Flintstone crudely brazed the tip back on a broken FP. I replaced it with a fresh repo.

Zorba · 12-02-2019, 12:04 AM

Update: The Wolff spring kit and the replacement firing pin are now installed - with rather less than the "usual trouble". This pistol is easy to work on, overall. The trigger plunger and spring was a bit of a challenge to get back in the gun, but it didn't take too many references to "The Sailor's Guide" before it was done. Gun is all numbers matching inside, and was very clean except for the extractor spring hole which had some cruft in it. The new springs are obviously stronger than the old ones, probably 96 year old originals. The piece was a bit dryer inside than I would have liked, but now there's a coat of gun oil on everything.

Just need to replace the two mag springs tomorrow, and she'll be ready for a range trip!

Zorba · 12-03-2019, 06:36 PM

Took the "new" Ortgies to the range, along with my Walther PP for comparison - and my Ruger Mark III .22 "just because".

Comparing the Ortgies with the Walther was "interesting" - keeping in mind that the Walther is a 10 year newer design in a time when handgun design was rapidly evolving.

Sights: Ortgies very small V-notch, Walther is a smaller version of the modern U notch sights we're all familiar with.

Empty mag hold open: Ortgies no, Walther yes.

Mag release: Ortgies heel, Walther button in usual place.

Firing system: Ortgies striker, Walther hammer.

Safety: Ortgies has a one of a kind odd grip safety, Walther has a decocker.

Accuracy: As can be seen in the following pix, the Walther won out - these two guns in *my* hands, on this particular day. Same ammo used in both, a mixture of PMC hollow point and Magtech FMJ.

Reliability over the 50 rds shot: I had one FTF/FTE "event" with the Ortgies, with a PMC hollow point. Walther had no issues.

The rest of the story: All shots at 8-1/3rd yards, AKA 25 feet. 50 rds through both. Both guns felt fine in the hand, and handling/recoil were very similar as you'd expect. Both guns had replacement springs in them, the Ortgies "just yesterday", and the Walther 250 rds ago when I first got it. Both are fun to shoot.

The oddball Ortgies grip safety just makes zero sense to me. *shrug* I shot a bunch of raw video yesterday of the Ortgies complete take down to replace the springs - I should have it up on YooToob as soon as I can get to editing/combining the footage.

11-17-2019, 06:24 PM	#2
Eugen User Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Newburgh,IN Posts: 796 Thanks: 403 Thanked 639 Times in 338 Posts	Zorba, I am glad you are pleased with the mag and grips. I was glad to share some extra grips and mag in my inventory. I frankly had too many. I've been helped by so many good folks on this forum and i saw an opportunity to help another forum member. Remember without photos, it didn't happen. __________________ “God created war so that Americans would learn geography.” ― Mark Twain

11-22-2019, 09:40 PM	#4
Zorba User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Merritt Island, Fl Posts: 952 Thanks: 777 Thanked 528 Times in 290 Posts	Here's the picture with my other pair of .32s, and Eugen's grips mounted. Turns out the grips that were on it are actually, genuine Franzite! Which means they've been on the gun for some years most likely. Wonder as to the how/why of it all. Anyway, the gun looks even better in person that it does in pictures, the BBL was dirty but cleaned right up and looks brand new! The piece does have a broken firing pin, which isn't terribly surprising - a re-pop FP is on order. Now this may not be "news" to anyone here, but my research led me to believe that keeping control of the FP and its spring during reassembly can be a chore. Not true - see this short video for details: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swQ8UTRn6P8 Haven't seen that little detail about the FP spring assembly retaining notch anywhere else - makes it easy-peasy. Attached Thumbnails

11-23-2019, 06:29 PM	#5
Eugen User Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Newburgh,IN Posts: 796 Thanks: 403 Thanked 639 Times in 338 Posts	Looking good! Life is short when you are an Ortgies FP...and have to do extra duty as an ejector. I bought my 7,65 Ortgies on impulse at a local gun show. After I got it home I discovered that Fred Flintstone crudely brazed the tip back on a broken FP. I replaced it with a fresh repo. __________________ “God created war so that Americans would learn geography.” ― Mark Twain

12-03-2019, 06:36 PM	#7
Zorba User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Merritt Island, Fl Posts: 952 Thanks: 777 Thanked 528 Times in 290 Posts	Took the "new" Ortgies to the range, along with my Walther PP for comparison - and my Ruger Mark III .22 "just because". Comparing the Ortgies with the Walther was "interesting" - keeping in mind that the Walther is a 10 year newer design in a time when handgun design was rapidly evolving. Sights: Ortgies very small V-notch, Walther is a smaller version of the modern U notch sights we're all familiar with. Empty mag hold open: Ortgies no, Walther yes. Mag release: Ortgies heel, Walther button in usual place. Firing system: Ortgies striker, Walther hammer. Safety: Ortgies has a one of a kind odd grip safety, Walther has a decocker. Accuracy: As can be seen in the following pix, the Walther won out - these two guns in my hands, on this particular day. Same ammo used in both, a mixture of PMC hollow point and Magtech FMJ. Reliability over the 50 rds shot: I had one FTF/FTE "event" with the Ortgies, with a PMC hollow point. Walther had no issues. The rest of the story: All shots at 8-1/3rd yards, AKA 25 feet. 50 rds through both. Both guns felt fine in the hand, and handling/recoil were very similar as you'd expect. Both guns had replacement springs in them, the Ortgies "just yesterday", and the Walther 250 rds ago when I first got it. Both are fun to shoot. The oddball Ortgies grip safety just makes zero sense to me. shrug I shot a bunch of raw video yesterday of the Ortgies complete take down to replace the springs - I should have it up on YooToob as soon as I can get to editing/combining the footage. Attached Thumbnails

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12-02-2019, 12:04 AM	#6
Zorba User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Merritt Island, Fl Posts: 952 Thanks: 777 Thanked 528 Times in 290 Posts	Update: The Wolff spring kit and the replacement firing pin are now installed - with rather less than the "usual trouble". This pistol is easy to work on, overall. The trigger plunger and spring was a bit of a challenge to get back in the gun, but it didn't take too many references to "The Sailor's Guide" before it was done. Gun is all numbers matching inside, and was very clean except for the extractor spring hole which had some cruft in it. The new springs are obviously stronger than the old ones, probably 96 year old originals. The piece was a bit dryer inside than I would have liked, but now there's a coat of gun oil on everything. Just need to replace the two mag springs tomorrow, and she'll be ready for a range trip!