To shoot? or not to shoot?

Big Chris · 07-08-2019, 08:08 PM

A few months ago, I bought a 42 BYF in almost mint condition, with holster and 2 correct magazines. All matching down to the firing pin & toggle, here's my dilemma....I want to test fire it! maybe only 1 magazine, but other members have suggested not to , due to any breakage of the matching parts , would de value the gun. I have over $4000.00 in this rig as it sits. I know it's up to me , in the end, if I decide to or not. So any feedback would be helpful???

Robert in NC · 07-08-2019, 08:47 PM

ok, first let me prefeace this with a statemeant that I'm more of an 'owner of old guns' that an actual 'collector'.

I completey respect those who choose to collect valuable historical weapons, and I understnd their reasoning about not shooting a valuable collectable. But for ME personally, I don't own any guns I can't shoot. Doesn't mean I take them to the range weekly or monthly, but I will occasionally shoot any gun I own.

But that being the case I don't buy 'quality' collectable guns, specifically BECAUSE I will shoot them.

In the end, it is your choice, nd your risk.

Best of luck!

DonVoigt · 07-08-2019, 08:48 PM

This "to shoot, or not to shoot" question has been beat to death.
There is no answer, do what you wish.

Doubs · 07-08-2019, 08:53 PM

While it's unlikely that one magazine of cartridges will break a numbered part, it's not guaranteed. If I had $4,000 invested, I WOULDN'T. I have all matching Lugers that are not as nice as yours and I don't shoot them.

If you can afford to, buy a second Luger with the express purpose of shooting it. I have several that I shoot and I've just sent a receiver and barrel off to have them mated. When they return, I'll have a frame from which I can shoot both 30 caliber and 9mm by swapping the uppers. My shooters are Lugers that have little collector value but are great to fire.

Norme · 07-08-2019, 08:59 PM

Norm, do you have to be rude to a new member?

You may not care if they shoot their gun or not, but our job here is not to make them go away

Admin

HerrKaiser · 07-08-2019, 09:06 PM

As they have said. I personally would shoot one mag and then never again just to know it functions. But the decision is ultimately yours.

Sergio Natali · 07-09-2019, 01:58 AM

I used to collect and I NEVER shot my collectible pieces.

As you contemplate firing your Luger, please do consider that it only takes one round for something unforeseen to occur, and the monetary and historical value may drop like a rock.
Common sense tells us that there are just a lot of better choices for a regular shooter than the vintage LUGER.
IMO

George Anderson · 07-09-2019, 08:44 AM

Having already put out four grand, I would suggest that you pop for a few hundred more and buy a complete toggle train to use for shooting. That's what I do.

CptCurl · 07-09-2019, 09:24 AM

I have one of the Russian capture Lugers that were imported some years back. It's a Mauser Code 42, matching except for the toggle pin and hold-open. It looks like it received a Russian hot-dip blue job with no polishing. That's good because all lines and markings remain crisp. It functions perfectly. It's my shooter and lives in my range bag. It has no collector value and didn't cost a lot of money.

In the hand it feels just like a $4,000 Luger.

Get something like this and shoot till your heart is content.

Curl

Roadster 02 · 07-09-2019, 04:54 PM

My vote is shoot, at least once. I would not shoot the collectibles consistently, but it's a shame for a gun to remain unable to do what it was made for, Heck, I even loaded up my original 1860 Army Colt with blackpowder and fired away. Bet that gun had not been fired since the late 1800's. It did fine. All my Lugers have done OK also. I echo the others in having a "shooter" Luger for a lot of 9mm or .30 ammo "disposal".

mrerick · 07-09-2019, 07:10 PM

I never shoot collectible firearms. Period.

They can, and regularly do sustain damage. You'll find photos and tales of woe if you search around some.

I keep a Luger and a P.38 especially for shooting. They are such that they won't much lose value if broken.

Later Mauser made guns have the best metallurgy, and often do make good shooters.

gunbugs · 07-09-2019, 08:12 PM

I shoot all my Lugers. BUT, before I go to the range, I swap out the firing pin and extractor for spares while I shoot. I only shoot Wincester White box, as it works well, and is cheap enough to make reloading pointless. But, take this opinion for what you've paid for it. I'm the guy who shoots a C&R Browning 50cal, or a nice G series FAL and doesn't worry about it.

Big Chris · 07-10-2019, 06:53 PM

I will definitely consider all of the options! I appreciate all the feedback!!!

Sergio Natali · 07-11-2019, 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CptCurl

I have one of the Russian capture Lugers that were imported some years back. It's a Mauser Code 42, matching except for the toggle pin and hold-open. It looks like it received a Russian hot-dip blue job with no polishing. That's good because all lines and markings remain crisp. It functions perfectly. It's my shooter and lives in my range bag. It has no collector value and didn't cost a lot of money.

In the hand it feels just like a $4,000 Luger.

Get something like this and shoot till your heart is content.

Curl

I agree with Curl

I used to have a 1942 Mauser Luger, it was one of those a so called "Russian capture" in a very nice shape, and at the range it used to shoot very well too.

07-08-2019, 08:08 PM	#1
Big Chris User Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 14 Thanks: 32 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	To shoot? or not to shoot? A few months ago, I bought a 42 BYF in almost mint condition, with holster and 2 correct magazines. All matching down to the firing pin & toggle, here's my dilemma....I want to test fire it! maybe only 1 magazine, but other members have suggested not to , due to any breakage of the matching parts , would de value the gun. I have over $4000.00 in this rig as it sits. I know it's up to me , in the end, if I decide to or not. So any feedback would be helpful???

07-08-2019, 08:48 PM	#3
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,443 Thanked 4,355 Times in 2,041 Posts	This "to shoot, or not to shoot" question has been beat to death. There is no answer, do what you wish. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

07-08-2019, 09:06 PM	#6
HerrKaiser User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: South Carolina Posts: 869 Thanks: 816 Thanked 882 Times in 424 Posts	As they have said. I personally would shoot one mag and then never again just to know it functions. But the decision is ultimately yours. __________________ -QM Looking for Mauser S/42 toggle train #22

07-09-2019, 01:58 AM	#7
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,087 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	I used to collect and I NEVER shot my collectible pieces. As you contemplate firing your Luger, please do consider that it only takes one round for something unforeseen to occur, and the monetary and historical value may drop like a rock. Common sense tells us that there are just a lot of better choices for a regular shooter than the vintage LUGER. IMO __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

07-09-2019, 04:54 PM	#10
Roadster 02 User Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Rocky Mountain High Posts: 316 Thanks: 181 Thanked 263 Times in 90 Posts	I vote shoot My vote is shoot, at least once. I would not shoot the collectibles consistently, but it's a shame for a gun to remain unable to do what it was made for, Heck, I even loaded up my original 1860 Army Colt with blackpowder and fired away. Bet that gun had not been fired since the late 1800's. It did fine. All my Lugers have done OK also. I echo the others in having a "shooter" Luger for a lot of 9mm or .30 ammo "disposal".

07-08-2019, 08:47 PM	#2
Robert in NC User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: North Carolina Posts: 35 Thanks: 32 Thanked 23 Times in 12 Posts	ok, first let me prefeace this with a statemeant that I'm more of an 'owner of old guns' that an actual 'collector'. I completey respect those who choose to collect valuable historical weapons, and I understnd their reasoning about not shooting a valuable collectable. But for ME personally, I don't own any guns I can't shoot. Doesn't mean I take them to the range weekly or monthly, but I will occasionally shoot any gun I own. But that being the case I don't buy 'quality' collectable guns, specifically BECAUSE I will shoot them. In the end, it is your choice, nd your risk. Best of luck!

07-08-2019, 08:53 PM	#4
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,736 Thanks: 819 Thanked 1,769 Times in 586 Posts	While it's unlikely that one magazine of cartridges will break a numbered part, it's not guaranteed. If I had $4,000 invested, I WOULDN'T. I have all matching Lugers that are not as nice as yours and I don't shoot them. If you can afford to, buy a second Luger with the express purpose of shooting it. I have several that I shoot and I've just sent a receiver and barrel off to have them mated. When they return, I'll have a frame from which I can shoot both 30 caliber and 9mm by swapping the uppers. My shooters are Lugers that have little collector value but are great to fire.

07-08-2019, 08:59 PM	#5
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,607 Times in 933 Posts	Norm, do you have to be rude to a new member? You may not care if they shoot their gun or not, but our job here is not to make them go away Admin

07-09-2019, 08:44 AM	#8
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,531 Times in 788 Posts	Having already put out four grand, I would suggest that you pop for a few hundred more and buy a complete toggle train to use for shooting. That's what I do.

07-09-2019, 09:24 AM	#9
CptCurl User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Botetourt County, Virginia Posts: 120 Thanks: 93 Thanked 140 Times in 46 Posts	I have one of the Russian capture Lugers that were imported some years back. It's a Mauser Code 42, matching except for the toggle pin and hold-open. It looks like it received a Russian hot-dip blue job with no polishing. That's good because all lines and markings remain crisp. It functions perfectly. It's my shooter and lives in my range bag. It has no collector value and didn't cost a lot of money. In the hand it feels just like a $4,000 Luger. Get something like this and shoot till your heart is content. Curl

07-09-2019, 07:10 PM	#11
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,920 Thanks: 1,377 Thanked 3,135 Times in 1,518 Posts	I never shoot collectible firearms. Period. They can, and regularly do sustain damage. You'll find photos and tales of woe if you search around some. I keep a Luger and a P.38 especially for shooting. They are such that they won't much lose value if broken. Later Mauser made guns have the best metallurgy, and often do make good shooters. __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

07-09-2019, 08:12 PM	#12
gunbugs Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska. Home of the best moose. Posts: 672 Thanks: 371 Thanked 1,202 Times in 407 Posts	I shoot all my Lugers. BUT, before I go to the range, I swap out the firing pin and extractor for spares while I shoot. I only shoot Wincester White box, as it works well, and is cheap enough to make reloading pointless. But, take this opinion for what you've paid for it. I'm the guy who shoots a C&R Browning 50cal, or a nice G series FAL and doesn't worry about it.

07-10-2019, 06:53 PM	#13
Big Chris User Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 14 Thanks: 32 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank You, All! I will definitely consider all of the options! I appreciate all the feedback!!!

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