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Unread 06-11-2018, 09:20 PM   #1
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Thanks Kyrie.
Great explantion.
I just subscribe to the "simple" answer is usually the correct one.

One has to assume quite a lot of bits and pieces came together to get the Austrian connection, as it is not visible on the pistol itself; the added numbers could have been done anywhere and anytime IMO.

Whether or not the dished follower was necessary or not, it is present in many Red 9s; so many that in the past it was "assumed" that a Red 9 without the dished follower indicated a "wrong" follower. I'm talking 50 years ago of course, maybe this has been elucidated since then.

I collected Brooms long ago, and have not followed any new info that may have been gained in the last 40 or 50 years.

Thanks again for sharing the evaluation of the possible Austrian indications.
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Whether or not the dished follower was necessary or not, it is present in many Red 9s; so many that in the past it was "assumed" that a Red 9 without the dished follower indicated a "wrong" follower. I'm talking 50 years ago of course, maybe this has been elucidated since then.
Purely IME, the mistaken connection of 9x25 Mauser magazine followers and Imperial Army contract C96 pistols seems to date to the early 1990s, and a batch of mismatched C96s imported by CAI. Some fairly large number of those guns had 9x25 Mauser followers, which suggested some interesting lines of speculation concerning their provenance.

That was the first time I saw a 9x25 Mauser follower in a 9x19 C96 (and I had handled and owned my share of "Red Nines" by then). The unique connection between the 9x25 magazine follower and the 9x25 C96 was documented as early as 1967, with "System Mauser" (Breathed & Schroeder).
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Purely IME, the mistaken connection of 9x25 Mauser magazine followers and Imperial Army contract C96 pistols seems to date to the early 1990s, and a batch of mismatched C96s imported by CAI. Some fairly large number of those guns had 9x25 Mauser followers, which suggested some interesting lines of speculation concerning their provenance.

That was the first time I saw a 9x25 Mauser follower in a 9x19 C96 (and I had handled and owned my share of "Red Nines" by then). The unique connection between the 9x25 magazine follower and the 9x25 C96 was documented as early as 1967, with "System Mauser" (Breathed & Schroeder).
Thanks Kyrie, I've always wondered "why the dip"- when the flat followers seem to work just fine. Now I know.
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