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Join Date: Feb 2011
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Eek!
You had me worried for a moment, there. ![]() PRD1 - mhb - MIke
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I have used a lot of the Sierra and Hornady 30 cal pistol bullets over the years. Expensive, but a nice jacketed bullet. I shoot them in my 30 Lugers and 7.65x19's. Speer plinkers and carbine bullets are heavier and longer, so one has to be ok with that. I might note that my shooting 30's have 308 barrels made by myself.
I read that you are a barrel maker, so with that in mind, there are plenty of 30-06 takeoff barrels for a song. Just takes some time at the lathe. I find that the front ramp is the hard thing for me, I have no mill or rotary table; so I have to do with two piece barrels, barrel proper and ramp soft silver soldered on. Of course, with a scoped Luger, irons are a moot point. I bought two barrels years ago oem, replicas, one chamber was ringed, the other was ok. Neither one timed to my particular receiver. I have no real information on "real" Luger barrels timing or headspacing wise. I rely on the SAAMI specs for chamber numbers and gage information. 30 Luger finish reamers are about 80 bucks or so, gages 25 or so if you want one. As I recall most real 30 Luger barrels are larger than the 308 number, so perhaps why casting your own bullets is a ticket, make them like you want or rely on the movement to the barrel sides during time down the barrel. Of course, your local range has to allow lead bullets, mine does not. If one ventures into the 312 bullets, then they can be swaged down to 308-309 or whatever in a single pass thru a die. I read about such on a thread here some years ago. Don't know how things will always go here, some folks enjoy making their own stuff, others prefer to buy it already to go; both seem to work ok I reckon. If one has problems with pushing of the bullet down the case, might take a looksee at the expander button and make it right for the components of the day. Most bullets do not have a roll crimp groove, so we just give them a little extra usually. I seem to recall that Lee offered a taper crimp 30 Luger die at one time fwiw. |
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Join Date: Feb 2011
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Thanks for the thoughts.
Actually, I did think about making a new barrel, or simply using a .30" or 7.65mm caliber rifle barrel as a blank (and I have numerous take-off barrels of commercial and MILSURP types, as well as NOS surplus barrels and cutoff pieces of all sorts). But, then I thought: Naah. Still, when I get the replacement barrel, I may get motivated to try re-lining the old one. I actually have re-barreled a couple of Lugers - 9mms - with the Numrich barrels (for other folks), and had no problems with them. I have many 'projects' lying around the shop which, if I'm honest, aren't likely to get done soon, if ever (these are all my own stuff, not anyone else's). As to the bullet and seating issue: I can make or alter an expander, and may yet do so, depending on what bullets are available and their actual diameter. The problem with the Lapuas (which do have a crimping groove) is that, while nominally of .309" (correct for the .30 Luger) diameter, they actually measure a tad under .308". Eventually, I hope to find a ready supply of a more suitable bullet. I guess what it boils down to is motivation, of which I have a noticeably reduced supply, versus available options for getting the desired result with less effort. PRD1 - mhb - MIke |
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