DWM 513A cartridge - original Test Luger round

[sheepherder]

Very cool addition to your collection!

One question: Your collector friend stated it had a Berdan primer. I'm sure he's correct - but without removing the bullet & contents, it's not possible to tell. Yes, you can say "because DWM only made Berdan", but that's not empirical proof. Did he have a picture or example of a fired case???

[Edward Tinker]

Originally Posted by sheepherder

Very cool addition to your collection!

One question: Your collector friend stated it had a Berdan primer. I'm sure he's correct - but without removing the bullet & contents, it's not possible to tell. Yes, you can say "because DWM only made Berdan", but that's not empirical proof. Did he have a picture or example of a fired case???

Rich, I would not know - I will look in Sturgess later - and maybe someone has Datig's book on DWM cartridges? I had never heard of it?

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

Rich, I would not know - I will look in Sturgess later - and maybe someone has Datig's book on DWM cartridges? I had never heard of it?

What?

I only ask because when someone makes a sweeping generalization, I immediately think they are full of ****. If they qualify the statement with, 'probably', 'usually', 'almost always', etc then I will accept their claim subject to later proof.

There is a member of this forum who makes wild claims and flights of fancy and presents them here as 'facts'. And he gets very indignant if you don't accept his theories.

In the case of your cartridge, I would be confident that it is a Berdan primer. But I would never swear to it...

I'm from Missouri...

[Edward Tinker]

I have this feeling I am not writing clearly as the year ends.

Up above, first posting - comments about Datigs book on DWM - it states size and shape - I would assume it would say or show a cutaway, at least a drawing, in his book, which I do not have or remembered existed.

I said I would look in Sturgess' book. I do not know any other way to check it. It is far too expensive of a cartridge to open up and look...

[rhuff]

That is awesome to actually have one of the test 45cal cartridges. Talk about "hen's teeth"!!

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

I do not know any other way to check it. It is far too expensive of a cartridge to open up and look...

Nor would any sane person suggest it. I often store my empties with the unfired rounds in the 50 rd box. If your friend was sure it was Berdan, then he may have examined a fired case.

Let's see what TBLAP has to say...Oow...Quite a bit, actually...Pages 1594 on, in the DVD edition...

[Edward Tinker]

Originally Posted by sheepherder

Nor would any sane person suggest it. I often store my empties with the unfired rounds in the 50 rd box. If your friend was sure it was Berdan, then he may have examined a fired case.

Let's see what TBLAP has to say...Oow...Quite a bit, actually...Pages 1594 on, in the DVD edition...

Interesting - now I need a 513 only