Who needs bring back papers for 32 cal

[DonVoigt]

"Many" collectors do value papers that are numbered to the pistol; at the least legit papers help a "for sale" pistol stand out.

Not valuing papers because they have been faked or counterfeited is kind of like not taking US dollars because some are "fake". JMHO.

European papers are fairly plentiful, papers from the PTO seem to be scarcer.

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

"Many" collectors do value papers that are numbered to the pistol; at the least legit papers help a "for sale" pistol stand out.

What dollar value would you assign to them???

[DonVoigt]

Originally Posted by sheepherder

What dollar value would you assign to them???

Depends entirely on what they are "with", where and when the papers originated, and the "type" papers.

No single $ value or %; kind of like some other things- you know how much when you see it.

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

Depends entirely on what they are "with", where and when the papers originated, and the "type" papers.

No single $ value or %; kind of like some other things- you know how much when you see it.

So, give us a high end value...We already know the low end is zero, or close to it...

Would you pay $100 for bringback papers for a collectible Luger??? Maybe an artillery???

[DonVoigt]

Originally Posted by sheepherder

So, give us a high end value...We already know the low end is zero, or close to it...

Would you pay $100 for bringback papers for a collectible Luger??? Maybe an artillery???

Why?
If I say any number, someone will find fault with it- too high or too low; or else want to sell me one with those $xx papers!


So this answer is "maybe"- see previous answer on papers in general.

At one time I had over 200 Japanese rifles and pistols, and only two with "papers", in each case the item and paper was priced together when I bought them- so I have no idea what the "paper" cost.

[Dave Sanders]

I agree with Don in that it is a personal preference. As we have seen with the replies here, some like papers with the artifacts and some don't care. I like them because that type of thing adds to the historical flavor of something I am getting. I don't know that I would pay a huge amount extra for papers, it would depend on the item and how much more, and all sorts of factors. That is why I was not going to put a $$ value on these, just trying to help out another collector if he happened to have the lucky numbers. Anyway, thanks for the comments.
Dave

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

If I say any number, someone will find fault with it...So this answer is "maybe"...

OK, I'm not a collector, but I'll take a stab at setting a baseline price for bringback papers...

Say a seller has two double-date Erfurt artilleries, exact same condition, asking $2,500 for one, gun only w/mag...The other is gun w/mag and matching bringback papers, for $2,600...

I would say no deal on the one with the $100 paperwork...Not even for $50...But for $20, I would choose that one over its twin without papers...

But that's what to me is a 'high-end' Luger. Anything under say $1,500, I would not go $20. maybe $10, more likely $5.

But that's just me, a backwoods hick who doesn't know his buttcrack from a hole in the ground...
(If the seller had a really good story to go with the paperwork and the Luger, I'd buy him an egg salad sandwich too...)

[alvin]

Originally Posted by sheepherder

OK, I'm not a collector, but I'll take a stab at setting a baseline price for bringback papers...

Say a seller has two double-date Erfurt artilleries, exact same condition, asking $2,500 for one, gun only w/mag...The other is gun w/mag and matching bringback papers, for $2,600...

I would say no deal on the one with the $100 paperwork...Not even for $50...But for $20, I would choose that one over its twin without papers...

But that's what to me is a 'high-end' Luger. Anything under say $1,500, I would not go $20. maybe $10, more likely $5.

But that's just me, a backwoods hick who doesn't know his buttcrack from a hole in the ground...
(If the seller had a really good story to go with the paperwork and the Luger, I'd buy him an egg salad sandwich too...)

$100 is 4% of $2500. Should go that one with paper, even if you have no interest in it. You can get more from it. Maybe $200 or even $300. For total $2600 input, generating $2900 output with effort does not sound attractive at all, but that's due to the $2500 base gun, not due to the paper. The paper is still a small percentage of the whole value. If the base gun can also help generating $300, output total $3200, that will be good.