Luger's Unsafe to Shoot?

[Major Tom]

OK, I'll bite too. It is true that a luger with a round chambered can be fired by pushing in the sear bar. No matter if the manual safety is on or not. The upper receiver, called a cannon, will fire a round even when dismounted from the lower frame. In the movie, it was a captured luger.

[ithacaartist]

Originally Posted by Major Tom

OK, I'll bite too. It is true that a luger with a round chambered can be fired by pushing in the sear bar. No matter if the manual safety is on or not. The upper receiver, called a cannon, will fire a round even when dismounted from the lower frame. In the movie, it was a captured luger.

I disagree about the first part. With the safety bar in blocking position, a sear that's not worn out does not move enough to allow the firing pin's release.

Dismounting the cannon from the frame eliminates the influence of the safety and allows the sear bar to move when pushed as described. (Dangerous, perhaps...but it looks like fun, too!) Field stripping a loaded gun seems to have been something the police did, thus the sear safety.

[kurusu]

Originally Posted by Major Tom

OK, I'll bite too. It is true that a luger with a round chambered can be fired by pushing in the sear bar. No matter if the manual safety is on or not. The upper receiver, called a cannon, will fire a round even when dismounted from the lower frame. In the movie, it was a captured luger.

You cannot do that with an assembled Luger.

With a loaded upper part it is true. But either it can be handy, if you do it on purpose (perfectly safe by the way). Or if done unintentionally one has to be a total klutz to disassemble a loaded pistol that has a loaded chamber indicator to begin with.

[Josafoot]

Originally Posted by kurusu

You cannot do that with an assembled Luger.

This was the question I have not been able to find a clear answer to. So the external sear cannot be triggered while the firearm is assembled?

Or is it the external sear can not be triggered while the firearm is assembled AND the safety is engaged?

If the safety is disengaged and the firearm is assembled, can the sear be triggered?

[kurusu]

Originally Posted by Josafoot

This was the question I have not been able to find a clear answer to. So the external sear cannot be triggered while the firearm is assembled?

Or is it the external sear can not be triggered while the firearm is assembled AND the safety is engaged?

If the safety is disengaged and the firearm is assembled, can the sear be triggered?

The sear can't be triggered directly if the firearm is assembled. Safety or no safety.

[Dwight Gruber]

Originally Posted by Josafoot

This was the question I have not been able to find a clear answer to. So the external sear cannot be triggered while the firearm is assembled?

The external sear cannot be triggered by hand while the pistol is fully assembled.

Originally Posted by Josafoot

If the safety is disengaged and the firearm is assembled, can the sear be triggered?

Only by the trigger.

--Dwight

[Josafoot]

Originally Posted by kurusu

The sear can't be triggered directly if the firearm is assembled. Safety or no safety.

Thanks!

Originally Posted by Dwight Gruber

The external sear cannot be triggered by hand while the pistol is fully assembled.



Only by the trigger.

--Dwight

I was hoping that I implied that the trigger triggering the sear is not what I meant, but still gave me a good chuckle.

[Dwight Gruber]

Originally Posted by Major Tom

OK, I'll bite too. It is true that a luger with a round chambered can be fired by pushing in the sear bar. No matter if the manual safety is on or not.

As long as the receiver is in place in the frame, and the trigger plate is in place, this is categorically not true.

Originally Posted by Major Tom

The upper receiver, called a cannon...

The upper receiver is called the barrelled receiver extension. It is only referred to as a "cannon", erroneously, by some correspondents on this Forum.

--Dwight

[DonVoigt]

Originally Posted by Major Tom

OK, I'll bite too. It is true that a luger with a round chambered can be fired by pushing in the sear bar. No matter if the manual safety is on or not. The upper receiver, called a cannon, will fire a round even when dismounted from the lower frame. In the movie, it was a captured luger.

If the pistol is Assembled-you cannot push in on the sear bar and make it fire! Just try it!

Do you have a luger? can you fire it with the safety on by pushing anywhere on it? Just try!

You can fire most any pistol if it is dis-assembled, use a pointy hammer on the primer; heck, one can even fire a round in a pipe that way, let alone a barrel. Stupid is as stupid does.

Repeating this garbage info is kind of like "fake news".

You are not supposed to take a pistol apart with a round in the chamber, duh!

[Sieger]

Originally Posted by Major Tom

OK, I'll bite too. It is true that a luger with a round chambered can be fired by pushing in the sear bar. No matter if the manual safety is on or not. The upper receiver, called a cannon, will fire a round even when dismounted from the lower frame. In the movie, it was a captured luger.

Tom,

With a fully assembled Luger, this is impossible!!

Are we children to believe Hollywood crap?

Sieger