Telltale Mark

Puretexan · 06-12-2017, 08:42 AM

I might get in trouble , but in any test, the results can be skewed to let you prove any theory. Maybe the test Sturgess performed was with a new pistol. If you read the posts on this website, you will see that the first recommendation for a Luger not functioning right is the tape on the back trick. If your pistol doesn't touch the tape then maybe the
mainspring is too weak. I think there is more knowledge on this site by experience, than in most of the books you recommend us to read. JMHO I really believe he must know his stuff if he can sell his books for $300 a pop. Now yall can tell me I'm stupid.

Dwight Gruber · 06-12-2017, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Puretexan

I might get in trouble , but in any test, the results can be skewed to let you prove any theory. Maybe the test Sturgess performed was with a new pistol. If you read the posts on this website, you will see that the first recommendation for a Luger not functioning right is the tape on the back trick. If your pistol doesn't touch the tape then maybe the
mainspring is too weak.

This may very well be wrong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puretexan

I think there is more knowledge on this site by experience, than in most of the books you recommend us to read. JMHO I really believe he must know his stuff if he can sell his books for $300 a pop. Now yall can tell me I'm stupid.

I provided my source. As much as I respect what you post here, I suggest that you read it before you continue posting your opinions.

--Dwight

Rick W. · 06-12-2017, 09:49 AM

In my opinion, I would suspect that the book reference mentioned probably says how it is supposed to work from design perspectives, and with the pistol in proper tune for its ammo selection. It takes some work to get these old pistols to move during the shooting operation like perhaps they were originally intended; it has been for me anyway.

Wartime useage and layman abuse might get outside of that theoretical window. We all know the Luger will "work" with overly hot ammo, but the life of the pistol is shortened dramatically; just a matter of getting used to things I reckon; seems like all knowledge has a learning curve.

I would think that levering the toggle to make some indentations(some are right deep) that one sees over the years on some pistols might take a pretty stout boy. Again just another opinion.

The mark on the rear of the Luger gives me an indication of how the pistol was treated/maintained from a shooting point of view. I like some of the historical aspects, but finally moved to the shooting arena only; hence my interest in said marks. Pistol maintenance overall can make the Luger work as designed, I think that handloading or selection of ammo will take that aspect to the next level. I find that collectors and shooters have a bit of commonality, both care about the longevity of said pistols; but of course..........always a few ringers in both groups.....

Hopefully there will always be room in groups for the new guys and the old guys; hopefully remembering some of what Mom told us(me as well).

Dwight Gruber · 06-12-2017, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick W.

In my opinion, I would suspect that the book reference mentioned probably says how it is supposed to work from design perspectives...

Read. The. Book.

--Dwight

DonVoigt · 06-12-2017, 10:43 AM

[QUOTE=Puretexan;304008].....

If you read the posts on this website, you will see that the first recommendation for a Luger not functioning right is the tape on the back trick. If your pistol doesn't touch the tape then maybe the
mainspring is too weak......"

You wrote this just backwards,
If it does NOT touch the tape, the spring is too Strong!

06-12-2017, 10:43 AM	#5
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,443 Thanked 4,356 Times in 2,041 Posts	[QUOTE=Puretexan;304008]..... If you read the posts on this website, you will see that the first recommendation for a Luger not functioning right is the tape on the back trick. If your pistol doesn't touch the tape then maybe the mainspring is too weak......" You wrote this just backwards, If it does NOT touch the tape, the spring is too Strong! __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

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06-12-2017, 08:42 AM	#1
Puretexan User Join Date: May 2017 Location: Pearland Texas Posts: 176 Thanks: 11 Thanked 70 Times in 36 Posts	I might get in trouble , but in any test, the results can be skewed to let you prove any theory. Maybe the test Sturgess performed was with a new pistol. If you read the posts on this website, you will see that the first recommendation for a Luger not functioning right is the tape on the back trick. If your pistol doesn't touch the tape then maybe the mainspring is too weak. I think there is more knowledge on this site by experience, than in most of the books you recommend us to read. JMHO I really believe he must know his stuff if he can sell his books for $300 a pop. Now yall can tell me I'm stupid.

06-12-2017, 09:49 AM	#3
Rick W. User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 339 Thanks: 81 Thanked 359 Times in 198 Posts	In my opinion, I would suspect that the book reference mentioned probably says how it is supposed to work from design perspectives, and with the pistol in proper tune for its ammo selection. It takes some work to get these old pistols to move during the shooting operation like perhaps they were originally intended; it has been for me anyway. Wartime useage and layman abuse might get outside of that theoretical window. We all know the Luger will "work" with overly hot ammo, but the life of the pistol is shortened dramatically; just a matter of getting used to things I reckon; seems like all knowledge has a learning curve. I would think that levering the toggle to make some indentations(some are right deep) that one sees over the years on some pistols might take a pretty stout boy. Again just another opinion. The mark on the rear of the Luger gives me an indication of how the pistol was treated/maintained from a shooting point of view. I like some of the historical aspects, but finally moved to the shooting arena only; hence my interest in said marks. Pistol maintenance overall can make the Luger work as designed, I think that handloading or selection of ammo will take that aspect to the next level. I find that collectors and shooters have a bit of commonality, both care about the longevity of said pistols; but of course..........always a few ringers in both groups..... Hopefully there will always be room in groups for the new guys and the old guys; hopefully remembering some of what Mom told us(me as well).