Barrel Extension Shipping Issue

[physoft]

Thanks Chickenthief, my point exactly.

Ed - I am not talking about rifles, registration, FFL or BATF, just shipping at this point. I think we agree that the upper assembly/barrel extension is a receiver. Both USPS and FEDEX consider this a firearm and cannot be shipped as parts. You may think they are wrong, so be it. However, how can you argue with a shipping clerk who scans your shipment, decides its a firearm and turns it over to local authorities. Some do ship firearms as parts and do get away with it.

[Edward Tinker]

Originally Posted by physoft

Thanks Chickenthief, my point exactly.

Ed - I am not talking about rifles, registration, FFL or BATF, just shipping at this point. I think we agree that the upper assembly/barrel extension is a receiver. Both USPS and FEDEX consider this a firearm and cannot be shipped as parts. You may think they are wrong, so be it. However, how can you argue with a shipping clerk who scans your shipment, decides its a firearm and turns it over to local authorities. Some do ship firearms as parts and do get away with it.

Yes, shipping, but you are quoting regulations and company rules.

Just because you talked to somebody, it is not right information.
We have collectively dealt with this for years, it is a part. And you can go on the same pages and find the definition of a handgun being shipped by an FFL - then it states that FFL 03's may ship handguns (antique), which makes no sense, anyone in the USA can ship a handgun that is an antique.

Frames and receivers usually (but not always) include the firearm serial number and are usually considered to be the regulated component of a firearm."

Please read the last line, regulated component - who regulates what a firearm is? BATF - thus this says that frame or receiver is the part regulated. BATF - not fedex, not ups, not USPS - but the ATF.

[physoft]

Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

Yes, shipping, but you are quoting regulations and company rules.

Just because you talked to somebody, it is not right information.
We have collectively dealt with this for years, it is a part. And you can go on the same pages and find the definition of a handgun being shipped by an FFL - then it states that FFL 03's may ship handguns (antique), which makes no sense, anyone in the USA can ship a handgun that is an antique.


Please read the last line, regulated component - who regulates what a firearm is? BATF - thus this says that frame or receiver is the part regulated. BATF - not fedex, not ups, not USPS - but the ATF.

The key phrase here is "usually (but not always)". Luger is the exception here because of it's unique construction. Please quote the other definitions you are citing and to clarify, I am not talking about antiques. I agree the information between USPS and ATF is or appears to be a contradiction. However, right or wrong, the ATF does not ship my firearms or firearm parts, USPS or FEDEX does...so to play it safe I think it best to follow their policy.