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[DonVoigt]

Using 4"(barrel length" accounts for a factor of "two" when the sight radius is nearer 8".

Roberts calculation of a change of 0.001" = 0.22" at the target, sounds reasonable, if a pistol is shooting 4" high 4/.22= 18.2 or 18 thousandths more height required, add .018 to 0.022 original height and get a sight blade of 0.40 required.

Some how Robert made a compensating error of 10 in the calculation, since if one uses the 8.1",
one gets the 0.22"

So in this case, two wrongs Do make a right!

[DonVoigt]

Some applications could use a 0.350".
You can always make one shorter!

Not sure why you need the one that is the same as "standard"; unless they are much cheaper than the original. Not many folks will need an original height sight. JMHO.

[G.T.]

As I can't find any, new or old, reasonably priced.. I think my fist offering will be the just slightly taller standard unit... and in my own experiences, I've found a need for the .250" offering... after that, it gets a bit iffy? Meaning it is hard to maintain the Luger profile and still have a tall blade...Profile lines don't line up very well on the tall sights....... I'm thinking .300" is about max within the original design parameters? That is why I'm asking? Do taller blades exist? What did the Germans do?... .... Not a lot of info out there... best to all, til....lat'r....GT

[DonVoigt]

GT,
a guy that needs and wants a tall sight is not using it to "restore" to the original outline or appearance. They want it to shoot to point of am, so IMO, it is ok for the sight blade to be different in profile.

One can't have it both ways, original height= original appearance; shoot to point of aim= taller sight and slightly different apearance. JMHO.

What did the Germans do? They were targeting for 100 meters( and minute of man ) IIRC; so it was less of an "issue".

[G.T.]

Hi Don and all.... a good example is the Mauser parabellum offering in the 70's.. the sight is significantly taller, I'd say approx. .275" O.A.H and it has a drastically different look than the original war time P.08?.. My concern it what the initial design will stand? As they are NOT going to make separate from scratch sights for all three or four heights desired?... we will see?... best to all, til...lat'r...GT...

[DonVoigt]

GT,
You will "never" get a consensus on this, so just pick what You want and go with it!

[G.T.]

Hi Don, yes, I think you are correct!.... I was hoping for a little more tried and true measurements.... but, we will press on... Thanks and best to all, til....lat'r......GT...

[G.T.]

I have requested 5 different heights, starting with standard, at approx. .200" the going up in the following heights, .225", .250", .275", .300"..... If push come to shove... it will be .200", .250", .300" that's if I have any choices at all when the numbers come back... I'm trying.. just don't know if the horse I'm riding has long enough legs!........best to all, til...lat'r...GT...

[G.T.]

I'm not too good at explaining what I'm after on the sight height equation... but lets start from the very beginning! And it starts like this! I can't see worth a damn, never have had good eyesight, and I think I was absent or in the can when they were handing out good eyesight, because I missed it... by a long way? But, I still like to hear the gun go bang and the dust jump up and the target run away... most likely 100% of the time... So, when I look at a Luger sight picture... I see all kinds of fuzzy lines and dots and fuzzy targets as well.... just like described above, the sight height means little or nothing to me, OTHER, than, I realize there are those who can see.. and every little increment of height actually make a difference to them, and the target! So, if you put the top of the front sight blade, lined up straight with the top of the rear sight, and hold the point dead center at approx. 25 yards.... Is that where your luger shoots... ??.. Don't care about left and right, just up and down... If your luger shoots anywhere close to center, then I would like to know the height of the front sight blade from the top of the sight block, to the top of the blade... It will probably be anywhere from .200" to .218" ... but I would like to know if it shoots to point of aim with that height?.... Let me know, as I have finalized an order for couple of 100 units of different heights, and I'd really like some more feedback from you shooter guys to finalize the different quantities... ... best to all, til...lat'r....GT

[SteveM]

You guys make my head hurt...but getting back to it, when I used to shoot my 1900 Eagle regularly 40 plus years ago(before I knew better) the poi was dead on at 25 yds. The front sight was a replacement Marbles and I don't think it was the standard factory height. Maybe you can find what the heights of those sights were offered at.

[G.T.]

Well, I talked with the manufacture today, and we are going forward with 4 of the 5 sizes I outlined above... I am purchasing them in a fairly small quantity, as, even in quantity, they are kind of expensive per part... ... but, the die is cast, it's going to happen! I will have test samples in 45 days, and product 45 days past that.... So, at the very least, I will be able to install proper sight blades in the GTS/T offerings that I will make more of soon! And you shooter guys, will have some options to play with?... Thanks to all for your input and help.... Best to all, til.....lat'r....GT

[Leather Neck]

Thanks for going to the trouble of doing all this, GT. I'm sure it's not easy, but these parts will undoubtedly be a great resource going forward.

[G.T.]

Thanks Dustin, I had a good friend tell me once, it's all about how you'd like to be remembered! .... ... I just try to see the areas in, "Luger shoot'in!" that need some attention and apply what little resources I have available to fill the need?.... It is happening and the purchase order submitted as of yesterday....
.200", .225", .250", .275", .300"..... Taken from the original print, (.200" & .225") and samples sent?... Going to be interesting........ best to all, til...lat'r....GT...

[dalek]

I will be here anxiously waiting for your test results.

[G.T.]

Latest info on the new P.08 front sight blades is that, "THEY'RE HERE!" well, at least the first bunch for inspection and testing!
And, I can happily say, to me they are perfect!
I think this is the first time I have ever seen any good, top quality, reproduction sight offered? At least I've never had access to any?
Well, I have received my middle height sights of the five requested! That would be .250" tall off the block, where as the originals measure approx. .200" early, and .225" late...( Some one else had a report on why and when this was done, but needless to say, I will have those two heights soon as well as two taller)....
They were quite expensive to have made.... and will retail for approx. $35.00 each... I think this is a small price for getting you Luger to shoot spot on! We are working out / negotiating, the particulars right now, but unless something changes in the meantime, they will be exclusively available thru Luger Doc..
The start in nicely, and fit tightly, perfectly, in a standard Luger P.08 front sight dove tail, and most all aftermarket dovetails will be tight and need to be fitted... My R&D team mate Don Voigt has one on the way and will hopefully post a photo or two before he commences to beat the hell out of it! .. (Hey! That's why they call it a test... ) Best to all, and thanks for your patience's, til....lat'r.....GT

[Lugerdoc]

GT, I'll be please to distribute them for you just as soon as you send me some for testing along with my cost in volume. Tom

[G.T.]

Hi Thomas, a prototype sample sight blade is already in route to you! I maybe have put the cart ahead of the horse! But I'm pretty anxious to get these front sights available to the members, and can think of no better way than thru you? As I mentioned in my post above, some small number issues have yet to be set in stone, we need to discuss .. gctomeks@msn.com let me know, best to you, til....lat'r....GT

[G.T.]

Hi to all, just got off the phone with the manufacture of the Luger front sight blades and now I'm really excited!!! Upon approval of the current unit, .250" in height, which in my case, I couldn't provide fast enough! we are now on target to fill the remainder of the contract in October, (I'm hoping for December, as they have been consistently optimistic and slow to produce? ) But, it doesn't matter as I'm so excited by the quality I just couldn't be more happy! ... Then again, normal for G.T. Specialties irony! Is, I can't see good enough to shoot a decent group if the muzzle were epoxied to the target?... .... So, considerable expense for brand new front sights, for a guy that can't see very well? Yup, this one also passed the cost analysis profitability study with flying colors as well!
Anyway, with things as they now stand, 4 of the 5 sizes will be made, the only one I'm not hot on pursuing is the .200" as it seems to still be around in some fashion here and there?... Maybe we'll make some of them as well? Time will tell... Anyway, more when we know something, and best to all, til...lat'r....GT....