Steyr Roth M1907

[Angus Magnus]

Originally Posted by kurusu

That's up to you.

What I know is that I wouldn't mind at all having one of those.

Really nice shooter, and gives great hammer-bite like an original!

[kurusu]

Originally Posted by Angus Magnus

Really nice shooter, and gives great hammer-bite like an original!

I never suffered hammer bite, and I have fired some notorious biters. Maybe because of my skinny and bony hands and me generally shooting handguns one handed only.


Edit: The only pistol that can draw blood from me when I fire it is the P38. The slide can scrap my thumb joint when I grip it to high. Doesn't hurt but makes me bleed.

[kurusu]

From wikipedia:

"8mm Roth–Steyr
8mm Steyr - FMJ - 2.jpg
Type Pistol
Place of origin Austria-Hungary
Specifications
Case type Rimless, straight
Bullet diameter 8.16 mm (0.321 in)
Neck diameter 8.80 mm (0.346 in)
Base diameter 8.85 mm (0.348 in)
Rim diameter 8.85 mm (0.348 in)
Case length 18.65 mm (0.734 in)
Overall length 29.00 mm (1.142 in)
Ballistic performance
Bullet mass/type Velocity Energy
116 gr (8 g) FMJ 1,088 ft/s (332 m/s) 302 ft·lbf (409 J)
113 gr (7 g) FMJ 1,070 ft/s (330 m/s) 290 ft·lbf (390 J)
Source(s): "Textbook of Automatic Pistols" [1]
The 8mm Roth–Steyr is a military centerfire pistol cartridge adopted by the Austro-Hungarian cavalry in 1907 for the Repetierpistole M7—the first self-loading pistol adopted by a major military power. The cartridge headspaces on the mouth of the case. Ammunition was typically packaged in a unique ten-round charger. Austrian military production contained greased un-plated steel-jacketed bullets. A few private firms in Austria manufactured ammunition with cupro-nickel-jacketed bullets."


Maybe those greased steel jacket bullets are the reason for the second barrel. I would keep it if I were you.

[Angus Magnus]

BELATED RANGE REPORT

Finally took the Steyr-Roth out today!

I attempted to make a stripper clip by tweaking an AR15/M16 one but it was a failure. Loading the magazine without a stripper clip was difficult, but possible. At the third magazine I succeed in slicing a finger open with the lug on the bottom of the bolt as it shot forward.

Twenty rounds fired of the Fiocchi ammo in total. The first magazine had a stovepipe, but otherwise functioned fine. The second magazine was a disaster: one stovepipe and repeated failure to go into battery.

Is the ammo too weak to cycle the bolt properly? Do I need new springs (if they even exist)?

Putting the personal injury incident aside, as well as the failures following the first magazine, here is my opinion of the pistol:

Love the historical aspect as well as Nerf-gun styling.
Feels better in the hand than it looks.
Recoil is very mild even with the high bore axis. Weight is probably a factor. I shot the pistol immediately after a T-14 Nambu, and the felt recoil wasnt much more.
Accuracy was quite good, even though the trigger has an extremely long pull that breaks almost without warning. Certainly better than say, a Nagant revolver.
Without a stripper clip, this is basically a single shot gun.

Given a choice between a luger, a C96, and the M1907... the luger comes in first, C96 second, and M1907 distant third. I think I would rather carry a Reichsrevolver.

By the way, my tikka barrelled finnish luger went to the range today. 50 rounds, no failures of any kind.

[Angus Magnus]

My futile attempt at a stripper clip:

http://forum.lugerforum.com/attachme...1&d=1486935038

The spare barrel that came with the gun is definitely not for 8mm Steyr. 32acp comes close, but does not fully seat the round. I have no idea what is the correct chambering for it. Quality is top notch, I would not be surprised if it was an original factory production item rather than aftermarket:

http://forum.lugerforum.com/attachme...1&d=1486935038