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View Poll Results: Have you owned a Russian or a Bulgarian? | |||
Own or have owned what you believe is Russian |
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2 | 18.18% |
Own or have owned a Bulgarian |
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4 | 36.36% |
Still own a Russian |
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2 | 18.18% |
Still own a bulgarian |
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6 | 54.55% |
REAL Russian |
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1 | 9.09% |
only a frame to a bulgarian |
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0 | 0% |
Own 1908 Bulgarian |
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8 | 72.73% |
own 1906 Bulgarian |
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3 | 27.27% |
Own a 1900 Bulgarian |
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0 | 0% |
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 11. You may not vote on this poll |
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In brief... there are questions as to whether the Lugers (mostly Model 1906s, there are a few 1900s as well) which are adorned with Crossed Rifles on the chamber were intended for a "Russian" contract or customers as identified by various authors and labeled as "Russian" years ago before many such guns were known. The Crossed Rifle markings are inconsistent and appear to be largely engraved rather than stamped. In the case of the 1906 "Russians", their safety markings and internal markings are identical to 1906 Bulgarian contract guns (although they are 9mm, not 7.65mm like the Bulgarians). They differ in the Cyrillic writing on the extractor. Some argue that both markings are Bulgarian and therefore they are all Bulgarian guns. Some (including Gortz and Sturgess) say they were manufactured in the same production run because so far, there are no overlaps in serials between the 1906 Crossed Rifle ("Russians") and 1906 Bulgarians.
http://luger.gunboards.com/showthrea...356#post303356 It makes a difference because the "Russian" guns seem to carry a much higher premium in the marketplace than the equally rare (actually rarer) 1906 Bulgarians, and several fakes have been identified. I hope this is a fair, although brief, treatment of the subject. There are lots of threads on this at luger.gunboards.com, some of which have been closed due to commentary that gets a little too personal.
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My avatars are the Bulgarian word for "Fire", as seen on my 1900, 1906 and 1908 Bulgarian Contract DWM Lugers. Looking for a DWM Commercial side plate #95 Last edited by spacecoast; 01-19-2017 at 10:38 AM. |
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![]() Here's one - http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=26929 Oh, here's a good one - http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=22692 It takes a spirited discussion to uncover the truth...If you can handle the truth... ![]()
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