Unit mark? Boy.21 J.R.M.G.

[An Old Shooter]

No date over the chamber on what looks like a commercial top with no military poofs. An N on the left side is almost touched by 2144 which is also on the barrel. The frame has an etched out two digit number and l (el) with 2144 added underneath. Toggle seems commercial with etched 44 on top. Side plate with etched 44 is not typical German but works. I would guess the top and bottom did not start out together.

Thanks for the information. This is all very interesting and educational for those who love Lugers and their history.

[DonVoigt]

Originally Posted by An Old Shooter

No date over the chamber on what looks like a commercial top with no military poofs. An N on the left side is almost touched by 2144 which is also on the barrel. The frame has an etched out two digit number and l (el) with 2144 added underneath. Toggle seems commercial with etched 44 on top. Side plate with etched 44 is not typical German but works. I would guess the top and bottom did not start out together.

Thanks for the information. This is all very interesting and educational for those who love Lugers and their history.

You would guess correctly; the luger assembled by the Russians or East Germans after WWII.

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

You would guess correctly; the luger assembled by the Russians or East Germans after WWII.

Vertically grooved plastic or Bakelite grips would indicate Russian, brown or black crosshatched plastic/Bakelite grips with a 'bullseye' in the upper quadrant would indicate VoPo/East German grips.

If the vertically grooved plastic or Bakelite grips are genuine (lots of fakes out there) they are worth some money. IIRC, I bought my set for $200.