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sheepherder · 10-10-2016, 08:02 PM

I have the 4" bbl stainless MkII, and the only point of contention I have is the lever in the backstrap...I now use an old rifle cartridge case to pry that booger out with...

DavidJayUden · 10-11-2016, 03:23 PM

You guys that dread disassembling and reassembling a Ruger obviously need a broomhandle Mauser in your lives...

kurusu · 10-11-2016, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidJayUden

You guys that dread disassembling and reassembling a Ruger obviously need a broomhandle Mauser in your lives...

Beg to differ.

Never had trouble disassembling a C96. The Ruger on the other hand...

John Sabato · 10-11-2016, 03:43 PM

Roland... I was only pulling Zorba's chain... we have a running comical exchange on the merits/inadequacies of the Nambu... Bill Ruger took the concept to the next and appropriate level. The Nambu has always looked like it was sent to production while still in the prototype stage to me.... just my not so humble opinion...

Zorba · 10-11-2016, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by John Sabato

Roland... I was only pulling Zorba's chain... we have a running comical exchange on the merits/inadequacies of the Nambu...

John has a secret back room that nobody is allowed into except him. Its full of Arisakas and Nambus! I have it on good authority that the T-94 is a particular favorite of his...

Sieger · 10-11-2016, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Zorba

John has a secret back room that nobody is allowed into except him. Its full of Arisakas and Nambus! I have it on good authority that the T-94 is a particular favorite of his...

Zorba,

I bet there is a tape out there, from 10 or so years ago, on with John speaks about Japanese firearms in a lustful way.

Rumor has it, that the Washington Post has just now started looking for it, as, of late, they have been very preoccupied finding the Trump tape.

Sieger

Zorba · 10-11-2016, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sieger

Zorba,

I bet there is a tape out there, from 10 or so years ago, on with John speaks about Japanese firearms in a lustful way.

Rumor has it, that the Washington Post has just now started looking for it, as, of late, they have been very preoccupied finding the Trump tape.

Sieger

Well, since they can't find Hillary's emails...

Sieger · 10-12-2016, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Zorba

Well, since they can't find Hillary's emails...

Zorba,

A liberal newspaper wouldn't be looking for her emails, but maybe the Washington Times can find them.

Putin has them all anyway, as he has been reading her correspondence, every night, for years.

Maybe Snowden found them for him!

Sieger

rolandtg · 10-11-2016, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by John Sabato

Roland... I was only pulling Zorba's chain... we have a running comical exchange on the merits/inadequacies of the Nambu... Bill Ruger took the concept to the next and appropriate level. The Nambu has always looked like it was sent to production while still in the prototype stage to me.... just my not so humble opinion...

Well I certainly agree with that!

But imagine an 8mm Ruger MKII. Wouldn't that be something!

As far as the Type 94 there must have been bribery involved with getting that into production.

sheepherder · 10-11-2016, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rolandtg

But imagine an 8mm Ruger MKII. Wouldn't that be something!

Well, here's something close...

Sieger · 10-11-2016, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by John Sabato

Roland... I was only pulling Zorba's chain... we have a running comical exchange on the merits/inadequacies of the Nambu... Bill Ruger took the concept to the next and appropriate level. The Nambu has always looked like it was sent to production while still in the prototype stage to me.... just my not so humble opinion...

John,

Looking at a T-14 Nambu, we see a C-96 Mauser top and locking system (modified yes) and a Luger bottom and magazine.

Notwithstanding the late war production "junk", I prefer the Nambu system to the toggle system of our beloved Luger. Why? Because it is not so ammo sensitive, yet, it is still as highly accurate.

Just my experienced opinion. Others, of course, may not agree with me.

Sieger

DonVoigt · 10-12-2016, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Sieger

John,

Looking at a T-14 Nambu, we see a C-96 Mauser top and locking system (modified yes) and a Luger bottom and magazine.

Notwithstanding the late war production "junk", I prefer the Nambu system to the toggle system of our beloved Luger. Why? Because it is not so ammo sensitive, yet, it is still as highly accurate.

Just my experienced opinion. Others, of course, may not agree with me.

Sieger

The T 14 late war "finish" may have deteriorated, but the pistols are not "junk", they work as intended, JMHO.

Folks frequently confuse "appearance" with "quality of purpose".

Sieger · 10-12-2016, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DonVoigt

The T 14 late war "finish" may have deteriorated, but the pistols are not "junk", they work as intended, JMHO.

Folks frequently confuse "appearance" with "quality of purpose".

Don,

Yes, I have three "Late War Junkers" and they do, indeed, work.

However, they lack the class of the beautifuly finished "Pre Wars".

Compare a 1945 Nambu's finish to a 1945 P-38's finish and you will note a real difference.

Yes, Hitler seems to have made the "quality of purpose" mistake relative to the Russian weapons. For instance, my Soviet Mosin Sniper rifle looks like hell, but will shoot less than 1/2 inch, 100 yard groups, all day!!!

Sieger

DonVoigt · 10-13-2016, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Sieger

Don,

Yes, I have three "Late War Junkers" and they do, indeed, work.

However, they lack the class of the beautifuly finished "Pre Wars".

Compare a 1945 Nambu's finish to a 1945 P-38's finish and you will note a real difference.

Yes, Hitler seems to have made the "quality of purpose" mistake relative to the Russian weapons. For instance, my Soviet Mosin Sniper rifle looks like hell, but will shoot less than 1/2 inch, 100 yard groups, all day!!!

Sieger

What has the "appearance" to do with your statement that they "work"?

The implication was that there was/is something wrong with late war pistols- other than aesthetics- they are identical to pretty ones.

Zorba · 10-12-2016, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DonVoigt

The T 14 late war "finish" may have deteriorated, but the pistols are not "junk", they work as intended, JMHO.

Folks frequently confuse "appearance" with "quality of purpose".

Mine's a "17", it isn't a Walther for sure, but it isn't bad looking. Sweet shooting pistol, very accurate. Of course it should be accurate at $1/rd!!

kurusu · 10-12-2016, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Zorba

Mine's a "17", it isn't a Walther for sure, but it isn't bad looking. Sweet shooting pistol, very accurate. Of course it should be accurate at $1/rd!!

If you'd roll your own it would be a lot cheaper.

I bet Sieger will tell you the same.

mrerick · 10-11-2016, 04:33 PM

Of course, from the WikiPedia article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nambu_pistol

"The Nambu Type A outwardly resembles the Luger P08 pistol but functionally is more similar to the Mauser C96.[3]"

I guess, what goes around, goes around and around and around...

Rich T · 10-12-2016, 05:18 PM

Well... jeez... who’da thunk a little American made (OK not so little, but..) pistol would generate such exchanges

And I just called “Tiberius” and told him the news. He wants to buy the Luger back

alanint · 10-13-2016, 02:00 PM

New Mk 4 Takedown.

https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/rug...rk-iv-pistols/

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mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,925 Thanks: 1,377 Thanked 3,139 Times in 1,520 Posts	Of course, from the WikiPedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nambu_pistol "The Nambu Type A outwardly resembles the Luger P08 pistol but functionally is more similar to the Mauser C96.[3]" I guess, what goes around, goes around and around and around... __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

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DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	You guys that dread disassembling and reassembling a Ruger obviously need a broomhandle Mauser in your lives...

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Rich T User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Oakland County, MI Posts: 33 Thanks: 4 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Well... jeez... who’da thunk a little American made (OK not so little, but..) pistol would generate such exchanges And I just called “Tiberius” and told him the news. He wants to buy the Luger back

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alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	New Mk 4 Takedown. https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/rug...rk-iv-pistols/