1918 dwm value

csiford01 · 07-26-2016, 11:00 PM

Hello all my name is Colton. I'm new to Lugers but I've wanted one for a very long time. I have multiple military firearms mostly ww2 era . So here goes, I was at Cabelas about two months ago and came across one of my dream guns, the Luger, and before I did any research I bought it. So now I'm enlisting your knowledge of this firearm to see what the true value of it is. The gun came with 6 magazines and a holster witch I can't find any information about .

wayne8661 · 07-26-2016, 11:13 PM

You should post more pics. But to me it looks refinished and buffed if it is a 1918 it should not have a blues trigger. At least from the photo it appears to be blued.
Please post more pics if you can.

Wayne

DonVoigt · 07-26-2016, 11:13 PM

Hi and welcome.

You are going to have to do some work for input!
First read the stickys for new collectors.

Then post good close ups of the various angles of your luger, magazines, and holster.

Tell us what you paid for it too, as that is the "true" value. It may be worth more or less to someone else, but pictures are needed to tell.

csiford01 · 07-27-2016, 12:02 AM

I'm having some difficulty posting the pictures. I paid 1000 for it

csiford01 · 07-27-2016, 12:08 AM

Another picture

csiford01 · 07-27-2016, 12:10 AM

Other side

csiford01 · 07-27-2016, 12:11 AM

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Edward Tinker · 07-27-2016, 12:45 AM

The Luger is likely worth $700-$800. As it looks a bit pitted? If bad lighting and not pitted, and matching, then a thousand is a good price.

Repro magazines? If original, they are worth $100 each, if repro, $5 each.

The holster I'd say is USA, except that's a German marking. Interesting. The mag pouch looks more p38 or Radom or 1911?

Eugen · 07-27-2016, 05:13 AM

Csiford, congrats on your first Luger and welcome to the forum. All the numbers showing appear to match, the finish appears to be reblued due to earlier roughness and piting. The holster is unique to me; I've never seen one like it. Show us close photos of the mag and particularly the bottom. Photos of the back sides of the grips will be helpful in determining originality. Nice first rig.

My opinion is that you may have paid close, if not slightly more than the market value. Frankly, you did ok on your first Luger purchase given your limited knowledge.

I'm sure you will enjoy your new Luger, the most famous and exciting pistol ever made.

wayne8661 · 07-27-2016, 08:27 AM

I will retract my statement about the trigger being blued. It looked blued in the pic that was posted last night. I jumped the gun.

The holster hanger is kind of cool as pointed out by Ed earlier. It apprears to be a cut down hanger off of an SA Dagger.

DonVoigt · 07-27-2016, 09:13 AM

Ditto on what the others said on the pistol, it is reblued and pitted, and you sightly overpaid.
But the holster may be worth $100 to someone, it is likely a German made copy of the US 1911 shoulder holster; many not issue holsters were made for lugers for GI's just post WWII.

They probably or could have come home together as souvenirs; unfortunately the luger did not fare as well as the holster.

Welcome to the board, but be careful- it is tough to own just one!

George Anderson · 07-27-2016, 09:45 AM

How about a photo of the magazines?

Tom Whiteman · 07-27-2016, 10:13 AM

The holster looks like a P38 holster but would have to try a mag to say for sure. Shoulder holster with RZM marking I would guess would be worth 250. Good score if you want to sell the holster.
I agree with Ed that the gun is 700 to 800.

I would buy the holster if interested in selling.

DavidJayUden · 07-27-2016, 10:34 AM

That holster is interesting. I've heard it said here that no such shoulder holsters were ever issued, so comments on authenticity are welcome.
dju

csiford01 · 07-27-2016, 11:36 AM

Thanks for all of the information guys and as far as the mags go I'll I've to take pictures of them tonight when I get home I ran out of time last night . The pitting looks far worse in the pictures than it does in real life . Can you guys see the markings enough to give me a little more information on them?

DonVoigt · 07-27-2016, 11:44 AM

Not much to say on the pistol itself, it is a "normal" DWM P 08 made in 1918.
Neglected, pitted- likely from poor storage-, reblued , but with a cool holster.

I doubt the holster was "issue", just re-purposing/recycling of an existing buckle or strap, JMHO.

csiford01 · 07-27-2016, 09:11 PM

Ok here are the mag pictures.. And I tried to put a p38 magazine in the holster it wouldn't fit it's too wide

csiford01 · 07-27-2016, 10:37 PM

Now this is what it looks like with a mag and the Luger in the holster ... It fits like a glove

alanint · 07-27-2016, 11:56 AM

The holster is a GI private purchase. The RZM marked clasp was added to it later, as the original design adjustment buckle made it harder to remove the holster with gear on. I agree that it is an SA dagger hanger clasp.

This is not an issue item and should not be priced as such. Between the pistol, holster and the yet to be seen magazines, you paid in the high end of retail, but you weren't seriously hurt.

07-26-2016, 11:00 PM	#1
csiford01 User Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 19 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	1918 dwm value Hello all my name is Colton. I'm new to Lugers but I've wanted one for a very long time. I have multiple military firearms mostly ww2 era . So here goes, I was at Cabelas about two months ago and came across one of my dream guns, the Luger, and before I did any research I bought it. So now I'm enlisting your knowledge of this firearm to see what the true value of it is. The gun came with 6 magazines and a holster witch I can't find any information about . Attached Thumbnails

07-26-2016, 11:13 PM	#3
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,443 Thanked 4,355 Times in 2,041 Posts	Hi and welcome. You are going to have to do some work for input! First read the stickys for new collectors. Then post good close ups of the various angles of your luger, magazines, and holster. Tell us what you paid for it too, as that is the "true" value. It may be worth more or less to someone else, but pictures are needed to tell. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

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csiford01 User Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 19 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'm having some difficulty posting the pictures. I paid 1000 for it Attached Thumbnails

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csiford01 User Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 19 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Another picture Attached Thumbnails

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csiford01 User Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 19 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Other side Attached Thumbnails

07-26-2016, 11:13 PM	#2
wayne8661 User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kennett Square Pennsylvania Posts: 591 Thanks: 15 Thanked 334 Times in 104 Posts	You should post more pics. But to me it looks refinished and buffed if it is a 1918 it should not have a blues trigger. At least from the photo it appears to be blued. Please post more pics if you can. Wayne

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csiford01 User Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 19 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Under Attached Thumbnails

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07-27-2016, 12:45 AM	#9
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	The Luger is likely worth $700-$800. As it looks a bit pitted? If bad lighting and not pitted, and matching, then a thousand is a good price. Repro magazines? If original, they are worth $100 each, if repro, $5 each. The holster I'd say is USA, except that's a German marking. Interesting. The mag pouch looks more p38 or Radom or 1911? __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

07-27-2016, 05:13 AM	#10
Eugen User Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Newburgh,IN Posts: 796 Thanks: 403 Thanked 639 Times in 338 Posts	Csiford, congrats on your first Luger and welcome to the forum. All the numbers showing appear to match, the finish appears to be reblued due to earlier roughness and piting. The holster is unique to me; I've never seen one like it. Show us close photos of the mag and particularly the bottom. Photos of the back sides of the grips will be helpful in determining originality. Nice first rig. My opinion is that you may have paid close, if not slightly more than the market value. Frankly, you did ok on your first Luger purchase given your limited knowledge. I'm sure you will enjoy your new Luger, the most famous and exciting pistol ever made. __________________ “God created war so that Americans would learn geography.” ― Mark Twain

07-27-2016, 08:27 AM	#11
wayne8661 User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kennett Square Pennsylvania Posts: 591 Thanks: 15 Thanked 334 Times in 104 Posts	I will retract my statement about the trigger being blued. It looked blued in the pic that was posted last night. I jumped the gun. The holster hanger is kind of cool as pointed out by Ed earlier. It apprears to be a cut down hanger off of an SA Dagger.

07-27-2016, 09:13 AM	#12
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,443 Thanked 4,355 Times in 2,041 Posts	Ditto on what the others said on the pistol, it is reblued and pitted, and you sightly overpaid. But the holster may be worth $100 to someone, it is likely a German made copy of the US 1911 shoulder holster; many not issue holsters were made for lugers for GI's just post WWII. They probably or could have come home together as souvenirs; unfortunately the luger did not fare as well as the holster. Welcome to the board, but be careful- it is tough to own just one! __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

07-27-2016, 09:45 AM	#13
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,531 Times in 788 Posts	How about a photo of the magazines?

07-27-2016, 10:13 AM	#14
Tom Whiteman User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Phila, PA Posts: 72 Thanks: 0 Thanked 33 Times in 4 Posts	The holster looks like a P38 holster but would have to try a mag to say for sure. Shoulder holster with RZM marking I would guess would be worth 250. Good score if you want to sell the holster. I agree with Ed that the gun is 700 to 800. I would buy the holster if interested in selling.

07-27-2016, 10:34 AM	#15
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	That holster is interesting. I've heard it said here that no such shoulder holsters were ever issued, so comments on authenticity are welcome. dju

07-27-2016, 11:36 AM	#16
csiford01 User Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 19 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for all of the information guys and as far as the mags go I'll I've to take pictures of them tonight when I get home I ran out of time last night . The pitting looks far worse in the pictures than it does in real life . Can you guys see the markings enough to give me a little more information on them?

07-27-2016, 11:44 AM	#17
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,443 Thanked 4,355 Times in 2,041 Posts	Not much to say on the pistol itself, it is a "normal" DWM P 08 made in 1918. Neglected, pitted- likely from poor storage-, reblued , but with a cool holster. I doubt the holster was "issue", just re-purposing/recycling of an existing buckle or strap, JMHO. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

07-27-2016, 09:11 PM	#18
csiford01 User Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 19 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ok here are the mag pictures.. And I tried to put a p38 magazine in the holster it wouldn't fit it's too wide Attached Thumbnails

07-27-2016, 10:37 PM	#19
csiford01 User Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 19 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Now this is what it looks like with a mag and the Luger in the holster ... It fits like a glove Attached Thumbnails

07-27-2016, 11:56 AM	#20
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	The holster is a GI private purchase. The RZM marked clasp was added to it later, as the original design adjustment buckle made it harder to remove the holster with gear on. I agree that it is an SA dagger hanger clasp. This is not an issue item and should not be priced as such. Between the pistol, holster and the yet to be seen magazines, you paid in the high end of retail, but you weren't seriously hurt. Attached Images

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