Otto Sindel holster - Page 3

lugerholsterrepair · 12-05-2015, 09:45 PM

Olle..Just adds to the mystery, doesn't it? OK..Thanks. So close..yet so far.

DonVoigt · 12-06-2015, 02:24 AM

Being the village idiot when it comes to holsters(remember I baked one!

, I'm kind of liking Ollie's for real.

Main reason is the ageing; I don't see how this could be done to duplicate the points Ollie mentioned that are cracked or spidered; and the closure stud sure looks aged to me.

It does look too good to be true, and does not have the expected attributes that Jerry points out; and I wholly agree with Bill that I would not pay much more than repro price for it,
but it does nag at me.....

ChannelIsles · 04-17-2016, 07:12 AM

Here's another 1941 Otto Sindel Police holster currently on ebay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1941-GERMAN-...YAAOSwV-RXEt7p

Over stamp on the manufacturer and date - I've not seen that before. Coming on the back of 2 same condition holsters available over the last year - Threads exposed again on a late holster - leaves me cold.

Oldreb · 04-17-2016, 11:29 AM

Being on the outside looking in when it comes to holsters I can truthfully say that in reading all the candid exchanges it is akin to to having the opportunity of sitting at a table and just listening to the knowing exchange their collective knowledge. I learned a lot -- thanks !!

Best Regards,
Wayne

roadkill1 · 04-17-2016, 11:30 AM

This has been a VERY educational discussion and ANALYSIS. Bill Lyon's pictures demonstrating Gerry's points especially helpful.

Thanks to all!!

Ron

Sergio Natali · 04-17-2016, 01:18 PM

I agree, I think this was one of the most instructive threads, some sort of "high school" on holsters, especially for me as I'm not a holster expert.

rolandtg · 04-17-2016, 05:11 PM

I only know what I've learned here and from a few books but it's the eagle that is the biggest flag to me.
The quality of the leather work is pretty good but the stamping on the back just looks bad to me.

Sergio Natali · 04-18-2016, 04:48 AM

I'm very far from being an holster connossieur, but I simply believe that the Germans made those holsters in War period and those holsters were made to be used, I generally prefer to be wary of things that look too new, as they used to say: "If it looks too good to be true, it most likely is not true!"

Kind regards to all.

Paladinpainter · 04-18-2016, 09:13 AM

Wow! You all just doubled the amount of knowledge I have about holsters. Nuggets like these are why I love this forum. Thanks
John

tharpo · 04-18-2016, 02:02 PM

Somebody must like it because the bid is up to $550. Added pictures for the record.

Sergio Natali · 04-18-2016, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tharpo

Somebody must like it because the bid is up to $550.

I don't understand it, perhaps there are too many people with a lot of money to throw away and not enough knowledge...

corby34 · 05-01-2016, 03:05 PM

Please Tell me what's not right?

John

wlyon · 04-28-2016, 12:13 PM

Real Otto Sindel Police holster on ebay. Note the inside belt loop threads hidden under slots. And this was in 1934. Bill
Jerry. Thanks for the computer lesson.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-German-...0AAOSwr7ZW6yNj

DonVoigt · 04-28-2016, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wlyon

Real Otto Sindel Police holster on ebay. Note the inside belt loop threads hidden under slots. And this was in 1934. Bill
Jerry. Thanks for the computer lesson.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-German-...0AAOSwr7ZW6yNj

Started at $350 and no bids, guess the lack of a good story and a "fluffy" description hurts!

But a very nice "honest" holster.

corby34 · 05-01-2016, 12:15 PM

Hello guy, I have that black 1941 police from ebay for $550.00. It does not smell of leather nor does it smell musty...not a smell I've smelt before. Talking about the belt loops thread on the inside exposed I have seen this on another 1941 sindel on Ebay now for sale at 595.00 check it out. I too am having a hard time with this one...

corby34 · 05-01-2016, 12:16 PM

Here is the link to the other 41 sindel police. Look inside you can see the Thread...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/281989254435...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

corby34 · 05-01-2016, 12:20 PM

About the Black Sindel I have from ebay, a magazine fits with no problem and I have a luger reproduction gun and it fits but tight....the holster that old squeaks to it...the leather looks wringed in the right areas...just baffling...I have 2 day to make up my mind if I want to keep it....HELP!!!

alanint · 05-01-2016, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corby34

About the Black Sindel I have from ebay, a magazine fits with no problem and I have a luger reproduction gun and it fits but tight....the holster that old squeaks to it...the leather looks wringed in the right areas...just baffling...I have 2 day to make up my mind if I want to keep it....HELP!!!

See Jerry Burney's comments some pages back in this thread.

I consider his opinion the last word on this subject.

corby34 · 05-01-2016, 02:08 PM

Yes but I think he may be wrong about the inside thread...Remember this was 1941...Germans were going into Russia...they didn't have the same time or materials to make a holster like they did in 1939....war changes everything... Did you look at other holster from 41, the same thing...Can some one explain this to me?

corby34 · 05-01-2016, 02:38 PM

Here are more pictures of 1941 Otto sindel on Ebay for 550.00

12-05-2015, 09:45 PM	#1
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,134 Times in 1,439 Posts	Olle..Just adds to the mystery, doesn't it? OK..Thanks. So close..yet so far. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

12-06-2015, 02:24 AM	#2
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,443 Thanked 4,356 Times in 2,041 Posts	Being the village idiot when it comes to holsters(remember I baked one!, I'm kind of liking Ollie's for real. Main reason is the ageing; I don't see how this could be done to duplicate the points Ollie mentioned that are cracked or spidered; and the closure stud sure looks aged to me. It does look too good to be true, and does not have the expected attributes that Jerry points out; and I wholly agree with Bill that I would not pay much more than repro price for it, but it does nag at me..... __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

04-17-2016, 07:12 AM	#3
ChannelIsles User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Jersey Channel Islands Posts: 156 Thanks: 8 Thanked 33 Times in 16 Posts	Another 1941 Otto Sindel Holster Here's another 1941 Otto Sindel Police holster currently on ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1941-GERMAN-...YAAOSwV-RXEt7p Over stamp on the manufacturer and date - I've not seen that before. Coming on the back of 2 same condition holsters available over the last year - Threads exposed again on a late holster - leaves me cold.

04-17-2016, 01:18 PM	#6
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,087 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	I agree, I think this was one of the most instructive threads, some sort of "high school" on holsters, especially for me as I'm not a holster expert. __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

04-18-2016, 04:48 AM	#8
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,087 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	I'm very far from being an holster connossieur, but I simply believe that the Germans made those holsters in War period and those holsters were made to be used, I generally prefer to be wary of things that look too new, as they used to say: "If it looks too good to be true, it most likely is not true!" Kind regards to all. __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

04-17-2016, 11:29 AM	#4
Oldreb User Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: South Carolina Posts: 83 Thanks: 160 Thanked 25 Times in 10 Posts	Being on the outside looking in when it comes to holsters I can truthfully say that in reading all the candid exchanges it is akin to to having the opportunity of sitting at a table and just listening to the knowing exchange their collective knowledge. I learned a lot -- thanks !! Best Regards, Wayne

04-17-2016, 11:30 AM	#5
roadkill1 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Virginia Posts: 127 Thanks: 166 Thanked 129 Times in 63 Posts	This has been a VERY educational discussion and ANALYSIS. Bill Lyon's pictures demonstrating Gerry's points especially helpful. Thanks to all!! Ron

04-17-2016, 05:11 PM	#7
rolandtg User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 480 Thanks: 394 Thanked 266 Times in 115 Posts	I only know what I've learned here and from a few books but it's the eagle that is the biggest flag to me. The quality of the leather work is pretty good but the stamping on the back just looks bad to me.

04-18-2016, 09:13 AM	#9
Paladinpainter User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Vermont Posts: 64 Thanks: 14 Thanked 45 Times in 15 Posts	Wow! You all just doubled the amount of knowledge I have about holsters. Nuggets like these are why I love this forum. Thanks John

05-01-2016, 03:05 PM	#12
corby34 User Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 57 Thanks: 0 Thanked 25 Times in 8 Posts	Please Tell me what's not right? John

04-28-2016, 12:13 PM	#13
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,673 Thanks: 3,243 Thanked 2,658 Times in 988 Posts	Real Otto Sindel Police holster on ebay. Note the inside belt loop threads hidden under slots. And this was in 1934. Bill Jerry. Thanks for the computer lesson. http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-German-...0AAOSwr7ZW6yNj __________________ Bill Lyon

05-01-2016, 12:15 PM	#15
corby34 User Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 57 Thanks: 0 Thanked 25 Times in 8 Posts	Hello guy, I have that black 1941 police from ebay for $550.00. It does not smell of leather nor does it smell musty...not a smell I've smelt before. Talking about the belt loops thread on the inside exposed I have seen this on another 1941 sindel on Ebay now for sale at 595.00 check it out. I too am having a hard time with this one...

05-01-2016, 12:16 PM	#16
corby34 User Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 57 Thanks: 0 Thanked 25 Times in 8 Posts	Here is the link to the other 41 sindel police. Look inside you can see the Thread... http://www.ebay.com/itm/281989254435...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

05-01-2016, 12:20 PM	#17
corby34 User Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 57 Thanks: 0 Thanked 25 Times in 8 Posts	About the Black Sindel I have from ebay, a magazine fits with no problem and I have a luger reproduction gun and it fits but tight....the holster that old squeaks to it...the leather looks wringed in the right areas...just baffling...I have 2 day to make up my mind if I want to keep it....HELP!!!

05-01-2016, 02:08 PM	#19
corby34 User Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 57 Thanks: 0 Thanked 25 Times in 8 Posts	Yes but I think he may be wrong about the inside thread...Remember this was 1941...Germans were going into Russia...they didn't have the same time or materials to make a holster like they did in 1939....war changes everything... Did you look at other holster from 41, the same thing...Can some one explain this to me?

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