1916 Erfurt "Failure to ****"

ChuckM · 08-16-2015, 01:08 PM

Thanks again, guys, for your advice and assistance. I am in NNJ. Sorry I didn't answer back yesterday, but was actually playing Match Director for a monthly Rimfire Match at our range all day. So the consensus seems to agree that the Breech Block is an issue and it may also make sense to replace the Trigger Bar as well. Guess that's not too bad to get this thing working properly. Now my next question...Looking at the parts list from Numrich, they offer two different Breech Blocks. An "original" listed at 90.80 and a "replacement" listed at 94.55. Even though the prices are close, why would a replacement cost more than an original? Wouldn't an original always be preferable? Why would I want a replacement over an original? Since there are other non-matching parts already on this gun and it appears to have been re-blued at some time, I don't know that the value would be affected either way, would it? C.

rhuff · 08-16-2015, 04:11 PM

If I had your problem, I would most likely deal with someone that not only knows a TON about Lugers, but also has the correct parts for sale....that is our own Tom(Lugerdoc) here on this forum. You deal directly with him(a one man operation), and not a "parts picker" at Numerich. I have dealt with him many times and can highly recommend him, as can many others. Tom is not going to sell you a worn out/bad breechblock that you have to return.

There are aftermarket breechblocks available, and I have purchased a few. They need to be fitted to your barrel extension, which is doable if you are familiar with mechanical things and have some tools.

Your choice

ChuckM · 09-24-2015, 12:39 PM

to everyone for your assistance and for your valuable advice to send it to an expert. Tom, LugerDoc, was great to deal with and provided a quick turn-around on the gun. Got it back today and seems to function fine again. Cant wait to try it out. Would recommend Tom Heller to anyone looking for an expert they can trust their guns to. Thank you. C.

rhuff · 09-24-2015, 03:56 PM

So glad to hear that you had a good experience with Tom, and that he was able to get things up to snuff for you. The old Lugers are a hoot to shoot!!

08-16-2015, 01:08 PM	#1
ChuckM User Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks again Thanks again, guys, for your advice and assistance. I am in NNJ. Sorry I didn't answer back yesterday, but was actually playing Match Director for a monthly Rimfire Match at our range all day. So the consensus seems to agree that the Breech Block is an issue and it may also make sense to replace the Trigger Bar as well. Guess that's not too bad to get this thing working properly. Now my next question...Looking at the parts list from Numrich, they offer two different Breech Blocks. An "original" listed at 90.80 and a "replacement" listed at 94.55. Even though the prices are close, why would a replacement cost more than an original? Wouldn't an original always be preferable? Why would I want a replacement over an original? Since there are other non-matching parts already on this gun and it appears to have been re-blued at some time, I don't know that the value would be affected either way, would it? C.

09-24-2015, 12:39 PM	#3
ChuckM User Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks again to everyone for your assistance and for your valuable advice to send it to an expert. Tom, LugerDoc, was great to deal with and provided a quick turn-around on the gun. Got it back today and seems to function fine again. Cant wait to try it out. Would recommend Tom Heller to anyone looking for an expert they can trust their guns to. Thank you. C.

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08-16-2015, 04:11 PM	#2
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,308 Thanks: 2,737 Thanked 993 Times in 729 Posts	If I had your problem, I would most likely deal with someone that not only knows a TON about Lugers, but also has the correct parts for sale....that is our own Tom(Lugerdoc) here on this forum. You deal directly with him(a one man operation), and not a "parts picker" at Numerich. I have dealt with him many times and can highly recommend him, as can many others. Tom is not going to sell you a worn out/bad breechblock that you have to return. There are aftermarket breechblocks available, and I have purchased a few. They need to be fitted to your barrel extension, which is doable if you are familiar with mechanical things and have some tools. Your choice

09-24-2015, 03:56 PM	#4
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,308 Thanks: 2,737 Thanked 993 Times in 729 Posts	So glad to hear that you had a good experience with Tom, and that he was able to get things up to snuff for you. The old Lugers are a hoot to shoot!!