Newbie With First Luger:

[DonVoigt]

Nice buy- I missed that one! Good buy, I would have bid on it- probably more.

You are correct, 1929 DWM P 08 with blank toggle and chamber; has police sear safety added, so yes it say police service.

Any markings on the grip straps?

Receiver markings are as "weak" as I have seen, and these "u" suffix pistols suffer badly from these indistinct inspection/proof markings on the right of the receiver.

Enjoy your pistol and welcome to the forum.

[sheepherder]

"The serial number is 4685 and it is on the frame and the barrel and in both places, there is a cursive "u" under the serial number".

I don't think I've ever seen a pic of a barrel serial having the suffix...and no land dimension...

Toggle axle pin has an odd wear pattern...

Good buy!

[gvf]

Originally Posted by sheepherder

"The serial number is 4685 and it is on the frame and the barrel and in both places, there is a cursive "u" under the serial number".

I don't think I've ever seen a pic of a barrel serial having the suffix...and no land dimension...

Toggle axle pin has an odd wear pattern...

Good buy!

Thanks!

I wasn't kidding when I said I was a Luger Newbie: what do you mean about "no land dimension": ("I don't think I've ever seen a pic of a barrel serial having the suffix...and no land dimension... ") ?

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by gvf

Thanks!

I wasn't kidding when I said I was a Luger Newbie: what do you mean about "no land dimension": ("I don't think I've ever seen a pic of a barrel serial having the suffix...and no land dimension... ") ?

It's the bore diameter measured from land to land, in millimeters...and with a comma, not a period...8,82 seems to be the usual...

If i can't find a pic quick, I'll take a pic of mine...

[gvf]

Originally Posted by sheepherder

It's the bore diameter measured from land to land, in millimeters...and with a comma, not a period...8,82 seems to be the usual...

If i can't find a pic quick, I'll take a pic of mine...

Thanks! And that's usually near the serial stamp?

[gvf]

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

Nice buy- I missed that one! Good buy, I would have bid on it- probably more.

You are correct, 1929 DWM P 08 with blank toggle and chamber; has police sear safety added, so yes it say police service.

Any markings on the grip straps?

Receiver markings are as "weak" as I have seen, and these "u" suffix pistols suffer badly from these indistinct inspection/proof markings on the right of the receiver.

Enjoy your pistol and welcome to the forum.

Thanks so much!

From the photos I can't tell about grip straps.

These are the two marks, faint one is receiver, heightened in photo-eiditor. The faint one looks like a Simson mark but someone on that other thread said Simsons didn't have serial numbers going up that high ("4685 u").

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Simson Marks

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[DonVoigt]

It is not a Simson receiver, but one made by DWM later BKIW and perhaps assembled by the , the "u" suffix is well known on police lugers in this range.

The faint, indistinct eagle is the same as the one on the barrel, and similar but different to the Simson eagle.

May have been made in 1927-29 and are referred to now as
1929 DWM formerly called "sneak" luger.
I have 3934u and 4506u, both with police sear safetys. Both have the "crappy" inspector markings on the right chamber!

land dimensions are numbers, like 8.82 stamped on the bottom of the barrel after proof firing and guaging the land diameter.

Originally Posted by gvf

Thanks so much!

From the photos I can't tell about grip straps.

These are the two marks, faint one is receiver, heightened in photo-eiditor. The faint one looks like a Simson mark but someone on that other thread said Simsons didn't have serial numbers going up that high ("4685 u").

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[gvf]

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

It is not a Simson receiver, but one made by DWM later BKIW and perhaps assembled by the , the "u" suffix is well known on police lugers in this range.

The faint, indistinct eagle is the same as the one on the barrel, and similar but different to the Simson eagle.

May have been made in 1927-29 and are referred to now as
1929 DWM formerly called "sneak" luger.
I have 3934u and 4506u, both with police sear safetys. Both have the "crappy" inspector markings on the right chamber!

land dimensions are numbers, like 8.82 stamped on the bottom of the barrel after proof firing and guaging the land diameter.

Thanks also! Do you mean DWM and it became BKIW? Also what does "perhaps assembles by the" mean? Assembled by BKIW?

Thanks again! That's one of the reasons I bought this gun: seems a mystery exactly what its past was. Love it....