Questions about Eagle/C E/C Magazine

[Lugerdoc]

Marc, I believe that your E/c marked mag bottom may have had the original number removed or the whole bottom may be a DDR made one. Had to determine for sure without physically seeing it. I also believe that some of the above mags shown may be fakes. TH

[lew1]

Originally Posted by Lugerdoc

Marc, I believe that your E/c marked mag bottom may have had the original number removed or the whole bottom may be a DDR made one. Had to determine for sure without physically seeing it. I also believe that some of the above mags shown may be fakes. TH

Which ones ?

[ithacaartist]

Originally Posted by lew1

Which ones ?

It appears to me that all of them have been worked on. File/sanding marks are visible on several, and all but maybe the first pic show that the circumferences of the knobs are no longer strictly round on the bottom, On a couple, a different color of exposed aluminum--newer and brighter looking--is obvious in the area one would expect if the numbers had been removed. One of the aluminum ones exhibits the kind of surface texture that develops when the material is wire brushed by a grinder mounted brush--sort of smeared and round-y bumps.

I would assert that they did not leave the factory this way, that numbers have been removed. Whether this was done by armorers at some time, or by someone else, I can't say. It may have been common practice for armorers to clean up used, previously numbered spares before returning them to stock. But it seems an impossibility to me that they were manufactured to look like this.

I am not a mag expert, and have observed few others than what I myself own. I base my observations on my experience with materials, tools, and processes. I have several early commercial examples in walnut, that accompanied the American Eagles I won. The wear on them in no way produces this appearance, and their knobs are still perfectly round in circumference.

One could check for out-of-round by comparing caliper measurements of the following pair of orientations: A left-to-right measurement which is larger than a top-to-bottom measurement would demonstrate that material has been removed from the bottom.

[G.T.]

Well, the best I can say is "Yes!"...& then again "No!"........ I'll try to explain... They usually left the factory with the highest standard of what I would call "quick quality" meaning doing a repetitive task by hand, to a point, where it appears as, or is indistinguishable from, a machine operation... Almost all, 99.9999% of the cast bottoms of Mauser or Haneal (Sp.??) had the center, front to back , parting line buffed off... I've seen a very, very few that were original, and still had the line or remnants there of??.. And, you can tell because if you look close, the bottom will exhibit a ghost shape of a bowtie across the bottom! and usually it will be smooth. It's pretty hard to remove the numbers and maintain the integrity of the bowtie mentioned.. It actually reverses the wide and narrow facets on the bottom... Now here is where this one does get a little sticky.. and that is the rough surface on the very center of the bottom radius.. It shows bubbles? Lots of them, and this if from buffing / sanding too deep and hitting pockets of gas bubbles created by the addition of the equivalent of a silicone type additives to aid the casting process... Same thing happens when you try to weld up the bottoms, it releases the die casting additives trapped in the metal and you have MORE bubbles.... Probably a bad casting to boot! The marks may also be some type of Impact rash, can't tell from here? But, back the other way, I think there is more of a strong case for the mag being original as the bowtie is present and strong... I think it's good!! But again, that's just me... I'll be quite now... til...lat'r....GT