One for Rich B.

[Diver6106]

I read it as sleeved for 22LR. BUT you must use a 22LR conversion kit bolt/ toggle. It is about 1/4" shorter than the standard toggle assembly and has a different extractor, using two lighter springs in the bolt/ toggle assembly and NOT the spring in the handle. The cheapest price I have seen on 22LR bolt/ toggles is $400+. But is the extractor cut out the right shape and does the barrel screw in and stick far enough back for the shorter bolt? THEN need to buy a 22LR magazine, running about $300+. So buying this barrel is only the beginning of cost. An expensive project that will probably cost more than buying a complete kit. But I buy these type parts and wait and shop for the missing parts, for years. I have a 22LR stripped slide and barrel kit for a P.38, still looking for a for a firing pin...

[sheepherder]

Ken/Revshop had a 20" 30 cal barreled Luger action a week or so ago...I found it mildly amusing...I saved a pic...

Hmmm...Somebody made an offer on it...Accepted...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Luger-Barrel...-/311001643683

"Gunsmith special"...Yeah!

[sheepherder]

It's always exciting to watch an Internet auction/bidding war...The tentative early bids, the feints, the feelers, the bold jump in price to scare other bidders off, the flurry of bids as the deadline approaches, and the last-minute snipes...

None of that here..."Starting bid: US $50.00 [ 0 bids ]"

I have to agree: Too much work involved here. Even if someone were to re-chamber it for a .223 Luger wildcat, they would still have to modify a set of reloading dies.

"Will clean up nicely"...I doubt that...
"Standard 12 o'clock Luger type extractor cut"...That's not the 'standard' Luger extractor cut...And the thread relief is not 'standard' for a Luger...
"6 inch .22 caliber barrel"...I'm not sure it IS .22 cal...

Doesn't conclusively look to be relined, from these pics...

Looks like a monumental PITA to me...IF it's actually .22 cal...

[sheepherder]

I'm not convinced that this is a .22LR barrel, but IF it is, it may be an enthusiast's attempt to shoot .22LR using all Luger components. Have to be single shot as the extractor notch would be for clearance only; no .22 magazine; have to use a dowel to poke out fired cases (think Liberator).

I don't know how effective a .22LR would be using a center-fire firing pin, but many many years ago I picked up the sub-caliber insert pictured below. It is smooth-bore .22LR, and the steel body is as follows:

- .470: dia body
- .354" dia neck
- 1.212 body length
- 1.735" OAL

I don't know what cartridge chamber this was intended to be used in; obviously a rifle, but way too short for the .308" Winchester.

But somebody thought it would work. It's very well made, not something turned out in a basement. I'd say production, maybe even gov't issue.

So this barrel in the eBay auction may be someone's attempt to center-fire the .22LR with 'standard' Luger pistol minus barrel.

IF it's .22LR...

[kurusu]

Originally Posted by sheepherder

I'm not convinced that this is a .22LR barrel, but IF it is, it may be an enthusiast's attempt to shoot .22LR using all Luger components. Have to be single shot as the extractor notch would be for clearance only; no .22 magazine; have to use a dowel to poke out fired cases (think Liberator).

I don't know how effective a .22LR would be using a center-fire firing pin, but many many years ago I picked up the sub-caliber insert pictured below. It is smooth-bore .22LR, and the steel body is as follows:

- .470: dia body
- .354" dia neck
- 1.212 body length
- 1.735" OAL

I don't know what cartridge chamber this was intended to be used in; obviously a rifle, but way too short for the .308" Winchester.

But somebody thought it would work. It's very well made, not something turned out in a basement. I'd say production, maybe even gov't issue.

So this barrel in the eBay auction may be someone's attempt to center-fire the .22LR with 'standard' Luger pistol minus barrel.

IF it's .22LR...

That contraption reminded me of this, although the dimensions differ.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokarev_Sportowy_.22_Lr

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by kurusu

That contraption reminded me of this, although the dimensions differ.

It does look similar. It's definitely not 7.92 Kurz; not 7.62 x 39 Russian. Might be a .308 Winchester case shortened and formed to fire a ~.324" bullet but it's not anything I recognize. Can't be a longer cartridge (like .308 Win) or it would push too far into the chamber. Might be 8 x 57 Mauser case, shortened. Might even fit in a military bolt action rifle chamber in some way that I'm not aware of.

I'm waiting for my end mills [mail] so I'll look in COTW and see if anything looks similar...

Got this at a gun show back in the 70's or 80's.

[ithacaartist]

Originally Posted by sheepherder

Ken/Revshop had...

This is the one I'm referring to. Sorry, not the seller of this barrel, who is proudfather76.

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by sheepherder

Ken/Revshop had a 20" 30 cal barreled Luger action a week or so ago...I found it mildly amusing...

Originally Posted by ithacaartist

I didn't notice who the seller was until you mentioned it...what's the scoop on this seller?

Revshop has some interesting/controversial items now & then...Try a Search here for Prior Lake, Ken Kontos, or revshop...He's a member here, I believe...

I have nothing negative to say about him/them...Just that some of his/their auctions are interesting...or amusing...or both...

At least I think a 20" x 1" 30 cal Luger barrel is amusing...