Unclean guns - Page 2

Sergio Natali · 09-15-2014, 04:27 AM

Richard

Of course one is technicaly compelled to clean a revolver from the muzzle.

Sergio

minigun · 09-25-2014, 11:55 PM

Half the fun is breaking them down and getting 70 years of gunk out. They look so nice all cleaned up and grime free!

I bought a P.38 ac43 that was really gummed up and grimy. Inside was coated with this thick, gray, sticky as Hell "crap" (the only word I can think of for the substance). Outside had a thin layer over it. I think it was really old ball bearing grease. It was so gummed up that the safety lever would creep a little after engaging it. And I was hard even moving the lever. It took around two weeks of scrubbing each part with a military cleaner (that is VERY potenant) called PD680 to clear that crap out. Afterward, that finish was so nice on the outside, almost a purple'ish bluing. And the moving parts were so crisp after that cleaning. That one wasn't as fun to clean, but the result was great.

MikeP · 09-26-2014, 03:33 AM

A trick that irks me is that a seller will include the worst magazine they have including ones that are not even functional and expect you to take it.

I got no problem cleaning a piece as it lets me see details.

A major dealer foisted off an Erfurt with a cracked breechblock on me I discovered this way.

minigun · 09-26-2014, 11:20 AM

Sometimes little details are missed, especially at gunshows. Never fails at one of those and I think it's the lighting in them and maybe one going over a particular piece too fast. Over the years, before buying, I've learned to slow down and not pull the trigger on buying until I've had some time with it. If seller is agitated or not cooperative with disassembly requests I have to walk away from it. Most aren't like that though and are usually patient with me.

stressed · 09-27-2014, 07:16 PM

I agree entirely. I do an armor level cleaning on anything I sell as a courtesy, and anything used that I buy.

We know these guns start to have problems when they get dirty. And you know damn well how discipline the German Army was with cleaning them and keeping them operational, as they worked. Only in extreme cases falling back/fighting constantly were they dirty or killed/surrendered where a GI picked it up and didn't clean it.

Sergio Natali · 09-28-2014, 02:07 PM

quote: I agree entirely. I do an armor level cleaning on anything I sell as a courtesy, and anything used that I buy. unquote

I've always done exactly the same thing, keeping everything clean and in proper working order is simply a matter of "self discipline", too bad the vast majority of people is not like that, I'm afraid.

09-15-2014, 04:27 AM	#21
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,087 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	Richard Of course one is technicaly compelled to clean a revolver from the muzzle. Sergio __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

09-27-2014, 07:16 PM	#25
stressed User Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 197 Thanks: 41 Thanked 43 Times in 30 Posts	I agree entirely. I do an armor level cleaning on anything I sell as a courtesy, and anything used that I buy. We know these guns start to have problems when they get dirty. And you know damn well how discipline the German Army was with cleaning them and keeping them operational, as they worked. Only in extreme cases falling back/fighting constantly were they dirty or killed/surrendered where a GI picked it up and didn't clean it. __________________ Looking for any Mauser S/42 #89 parts

09-28-2014, 02:07 PM	#26
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,087 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	quote: I agree entirely. I do an armor level cleaning on anything I sell as a courtesy, and anything used that I buy. unquote I've always done exactly the same thing, keeping everything clean and in proper working order is simply a matter of "self discipline", too bad the vast majority of people is not like that, I'm afraid. __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

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09-25-2014, 11:55 PM	#22
minigun User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 424 Thanks: 16 Thanked 20 Times in 15 Posts	Half the fun is breaking them down and getting 70 years of gunk out. They look so nice all cleaned up and grime free! I bought a P.38 ac43 that was really gummed up and grimy. Inside was coated with this thick, gray, sticky as Hell "crap" (the only word I can think of for the substance). Outside had a thin layer over it. I think it was really old ball bearing grease. It was so gummed up that the safety lever would creep a little after engaging it. And I was hard even moving the lever. It took around two weeks of scrubbing each part with a military cleaner (that is VERY potenant) called PD680 to clear that crap out. Afterward, that finish was so nice on the outside, almost a purple'ish bluing. And the moving parts were so crisp after that cleaning. That one wasn't as fun to clean, but the result was great.

09-26-2014, 03:33 AM	#23
MikeP User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ILL Posts: 686 Thanks: 36 Thanked 452 Times in 198 Posts	A trick that irks me is that a seller will include the worst magazine they have including ones that are not even functional and expect you to take it. I got no problem cleaning a piece as it lets me see details. A major dealer foisted off an Erfurt with a cracked breechblock on me I discovered this way.

09-26-2014, 11:20 AM	#24
minigun User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 424 Thanks: 16 Thanked 20 Times in 15 Posts	Sometimes little details are missed, especially at gunshows. Never fails at one of those and I think it's the lighting in them and maybe one going over a particular piece too fast. Over the years, before buying, I've learned to slow down and not pull the trigger on buying until I've had some time with it. If seller is agitated or not cooperative with disassembly requests I have to walk away from it. Most aren't like that though and are usually patient with me.