Auto-Ordnance 1927-A5 Pistol on GB

[ithacaartist]

Another one of these just sold a couple weeks ago--slightly different, with the M1 straight forestock and a shorter, 10.5" barrel. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=422636720 Both reached the $750 range;these sell new for just under $1k. Why is this strange, Rich? Numrich has been selling parts at online auctions for a while, why not this pistol?

[sheepherder]

Their guns side does sell lots of pistols, but this is the first I've seen marked 'for export only'. The caveat about its being neither a pistol or rifle, as supposedly documented by ATF, and classed simply as a 'firearm' is odd as well. And they state "Therefore, a pistol permit is not required".

They don't mention if it is new or used...But that it was manufactured in 1995...

You would think if it was NOS they would say so...Or that if it was used, they would say that...

And they state that sale is prohibited in nine states...

The GB username 'gunsnotparts4sale' is a new one to me as well, but I don't follow their gun sales, just the parts...Maybe it's not Numrich at all (although being West Hurley is pretty much a giveaway)...

I'd say that all qualifies as strange...

They're moving out of NYS, so I'm wondering if this is some item that was never sold/shipped way back when, and is only now surfacing and being offered...Sarco has these sales every month; things they found in their warehouse that were never inventoried and are only now being discovered...

Who knows? Maybe someone bought it years ago and rather than surrender/register it, sold it back to them...

It's up to $960 now with 3 days to go...

BTW: A buddy had a Thompson many years ago; I handled it (and was surprised at how heavy it was) but I don't recall the protruding lip on the front of the magazine body...

[ithacaartist]

Originally Posted by sheepherder

...I don't recall the protruding lip on the front of the magazine body...

That's the way the mags are. I have several originals, four of them manufactured by Seymour, to use in my semi. The modified original 30-shot that came with it didn't have its mag catch hole done very well, it didn't lock up very tightly, its lips were bent, and it jiggled and rotated all over the place; and because of this, it would misfeed every time a round was stripped that had been on the left side of the stack. This was NY compliant (pre-ban) when I bought the carbine, but since NY's stupid S.A.F.E. act, all these mags now reside with my son in Ohio. My plan is to chop them down to ten round capacity. I've seen mags thus modified on eBay, but the modification was a terrible job, and I can do way better. Even though Thompson mags are very numerous, new stashes being discovered all the time, this plan makes orthodox collectors cringe.

[sheepherder]

Why not spot-weld in a U shaped plate and shorten the spring rather than chop it...The SAFE Act allows modified/shortened magazines...But few mfg's/distributors want to go to the trouble...

I was scrolling thru Herr Cuomo's SAFE web site last week; some yahoo on GB wouldn't sell AK buttstocks to NYS...I asked why and he answered that AK wood was banned in NYS...I asked how an oblong piece of wood could be banned but he never replied with any written/Internet posted ban on furniture, and I couldn't find any either...Just the ban on folding and/or telescoping buttstocks...And it wasn't clear if it was just the stock or if the stock was banned if mounted on the rifle...

Dave - Does that lip on the magazine actually function as part of the feed ramp??? I see daylight in front of the mag...