Is there anybody out there ?

[JuneGrass 8]

David , I`m not ready to fire up my old drill press just yet , although I must admit it`s beginning to look dismal. I have some factory loads , and some Sierra 85 grn RN bullets that I`m assembling as dummies for O.A.L. before I get serious , and shoot this thing . I was , and still am very interested in cast lead , as I have never assembled rounds with cast bullets before , been scared silly over leading . So here I am ready willing and.........very grateful for new found interests , and friends . Thanks , Don

[Sieger]

Originally Posted by JuneGrass 8

David , I`m not ready to fire up my old drill press just yet , although I must admit it`s beginning to look dismal. I have some factory loads , and some Sierra 85 grn RN bullets that I`m assembling as dummies for O.A.L. before I get serious , and shoot this thing . I was , and still am very interested in cast lead , as I have never assembled rounds with cast bullets before , been scared silly over leading . So here I am ready willing and.........very grateful for new found interests , and friends . Thanks , Don

Hi,

To save you some time and aggravation, please read my sticky on how to determine proper O.A.L. with a new bullet type.

The original DWM O.A.L.s for round nose and truncated cone were 1.173 and 1.14 respectively.

For a truncated cone type of bullet, Lee makes a mold for the .32-20, in 90 grain SWC that looks about perfect to me for a 7.65 Luger. Sized to .311 or .312, these should be just the ticket for a Parabellum. The two cavity mold sells at Midway for less than $20.00 and the Lee Mold number for it is 314-90-SWC.

If you don't roll your own, try King Shooters Supply for either their lead .310 or .313 round nose 92.0 grainers, as these should work perfectly in your Parabellum (King Shooters Supply, King of Prussia, PA, Tel. 610-491-9901).

Please know that the 7.65 Luger's groove is at .311, so feel free to shoot .312 to .313 lead through it, as I have for decades. Do make sure your sizer button matches up with the diameter bullet you are trying to seat, or you will have lead shaving when trying to seat them. Lead shaving will totally destroy any chance for accuracy, of course, with just about any lead bullet.

If lead bullets are properly lubed, they will not lead your barrel, so don't think a minute more about it.

If you have any particular questions, feel free to PM me with them.

I hope this helps!!


Sieger

[rhuff]

If you are looking for a nice 92gr LRN bullet(and not a loaded cartridge with LRN), then look at Western Bullet Company in Wyoming(I am pretty sure it is Wy). I have loaded a lot of these LRN bullets in 30 Luger brass, and can recommend them highly. They are also nice people to deal with. I know of no factory ammo loaded with 90-92gr Lead bullets.

[Sieger]

Originally Posted by rhuff

If you are looking for a nice 92gr LRN bullet(and not a loaded cartridge with LRN), then look at Western Bullet Company in Wyoming(I am pretty sure it is Wy). I have loaded a lot of these LRN bullets in 30 Luger brass, and can recommend them highly. They are also nice people to deal with. I know of no factory ammo loaded with 90-92gr Lead bullets.

rhuff,

They are using the old 92 grain Lyman #311227 mold.

When loaded to the proper length of 1.173 inches, will the neck of the case cover the top grease groove?

Thanks!!


Sieger

[JuneGrass 8]

Bob , Richard ,
Thanks to both of you for your info on cast bullets , I`m going to attempt to contact both outfits and get on there backorder list , as I`m more than sure I`ll end up , but nothing ventured , nothing gained . I appreciate your help very much .
Thanks , Don

[rhuff]

Originally Posted by Sieger

rhuff,

They are using the old 92 grain Lyman #311227 mold.

When loaded to the proper length of 1.173 inches, will the neck of the case cover the top grease groove?

Thanks!!


Sieger

Bob,

I am loading this bullet to where the case mouth is just barely above the grease groove, to an OAL of 1.150+/-. Buy seating the bullet thusly, and using a collet type crimp, one can sort of utilize the grease groove as a cannalure to help prevent set back on feeding into a handgun chamber. My 1921 DWM Luger likes this bullet, possibly because of the .310-.311 dia.

[Sieger]

Originally Posted by rhuff

Bob,

I am loading this bullet to where the case mouth is just barely above the grease groove, to an OAL of 1.150+/-. Buy seating the bullet thusly, and using a collet type crimp, one can sort of utilize the grease groove as a cannalure to help prevent set back on feeding into a handgun chamber. My 1921 DWM Luger likes this bullet, possibly because of the .310-.311 dia.

Hi,

Have you had any problems with jamming when shooting from a fully loaded 8 round magazine?

Also, what is your most successful powder with this load combination?

Thanks!


Sieger

[rhuff]

Originally Posted by Sieger

Hi,

Have you had any problems with jamming when shooting from a fully loaded 8 round magazine?

Also, what is your most successful powder with this load combination?

Thanks!


Sieger

I don't load my mags to 8 rounds. I load to 5 rounds, as that is the amount I shoot be it revolver or semi-auto. Those rounds are loaded with Bullseye powder, but I plan to use Unique with the next batch. I don't have 100% reliability with these rounds, but pretty good functioning. I am experiencing zero bullet setback. I am hoping for improvement with the slower powder. I wish I had a good load for Power Pistol, but I don't. To me, these Lugers are a real challenge as to springs(all), mags, OAL, bullet profile, powder type and loadings. I may never get 100% reliability out of my 1921 DWM, but it won't be because I haven't tried, and tried, and tried. A work in progress.