G Date with DWM toggle - need help

danielsand · 01-31-2014, 12:35 PM

VERY pretty, and servicable pistol, regardless. Some interesting history behind all the parts. Grips are obviously new. But I would still like to have it!

sthomp · 01-31-2014, 01:17 PM

Klaus...yes, not much question about the grips...and the fakery of the mag. However, the numbers on the frame and barrel do match...both 6616. The problem is no suffix that is readable. Also, I don't detect any color difference between the barrel, receiver and frame. It has clearly been refinished and the barrel/receiver would certainly have been done together...not much chance of color difference.
Here's some new info: the tool that came in the pouch of the A. Fischer 1941 holster is marked "byf41" on the little vertical tab at the big end. I can't find any reference (STILL, Gortz & Sturgess etc) that document this kind of tool marking...is this yet another "boost"? (see pics below)

sheepherder · 01-31-2014, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sthomp

Klaus...yes, not much question about the grips...and the fakery of the mag. However, the numbers on the frame and barrel do match...both 6616.

I think Klaus is pointing out that the font & style are subtly different...

But the price was right (again, IMO) and it is a handsome Luger...

sthomp · 01-31-2014, 09:21 PM

sheepherder...Good point, I missed that subtlety. Yes, now that I look at it from that standpoint, there is a different font...actually looks like they used 9s upside down for the 6s under the barrel.
The more we see of this pistol, the more questions arise. It looks like it was "built up" from any number of unrelated parts. I guess there is enough G Date to it to call it a G Date mis-match. Given the fairly nice holster, I think it's safe to say I'm in to the pistol at under $1K ($1095 total with holster and tool delivered). Here's a couple of pics of the holster. I'll run it by Jerry Burney for his comments, but I think it's safe to evaluate it at $150. It's a 1941 dated A. Fischer hardshell.

01-31-2014, 01:17 PM	#2
sthomp User Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Arizona Posts: 50 Thanks: 2 Thanked 26 Times in 12 Posts	Klaus...yes, not much question about the grips...and the fakery of the mag. However, the numbers on the frame and barrel do match...both 6616. The problem is no suffix that is readable. Also, I don't detect any color difference between the barrel, receiver and frame. It has clearly been refinished and the barrel/receiver would certainly have been done together...not much chance of color difference. Here's some new info: the tool that came in the pouch of the A. Fischer 1941 holster is marked "byf41" on the little vertical tab at the big end. I can't find any reference (STILL, Gortz & Sturgess etc) that document this kind of tool marking...is this yet another "boost"? (see pics below) Attached Thumbnails

01-31-2014, 09:21 PM	#4
sthomp User Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Arizona Posts: 50 Thanks: 2 Thanked 26 Times in 12 Posts	sheepherder...Good point, I missed that subtlety. Yes, now that I look at it from that standpoint, there is a different font...actually looks like they used 9s upside down for the 6s under the barrel. The more we see of this pistol, the more questions arise. It looks like it was "built up" from any number of unrelated parts. I guess there is enough G Date to it to call it a G Date mis-match. Given the fairly nice holster, I think it's safe to say I'm in to the pistol at under $1K ($1095 total with holster and tool delivered). Here's a couple of pics of the holster. I'll run it by Jerry Burney for his comments, but I think it's safe to evaluate it at $150. It's a 1941 dated A. Fischer hardshell. Attached Thumbnails

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01-31-2014, 12:35 PM	#1
danielsand User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: SoCal Posts: 137 Thanks: 52 Thanked 100 Times in 43 Posts	VERY pretty, and servicable pistol, regardless. Some interesting history behind all the parts. Grips are obviously new. But I would still like to have it!