Nambu Type 14 Pistol

[Olle]

Originally Posted by sheepherder

If you have a Nambu Type 14 (or Papa or Baby) please post pictures of them! This IS a Nambu thread...

Here's one I restored a while back, belongs to a friend of me now...

[Olle]

I also have a "Luger" I bought on eBay a couple of years ago:

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by Olle

Here's one I restored a while back, belongs to a friend of me now...

Thank you for the pics!

The grips are interesting; I don't recall if Teri addressed that on her site - Why do some Type 14's have completely checkered/grooved grips, and some only 75%???

BTW: How difficult is it to field strip the T14??? Does the trigger guard sequence pull down easily or is it a bear that requires three hands??? (I've read the takedown procedure; it sounds hard)...

[Olle]

Originally Posted by sheepherder

Thank you for the pics!

The grips are interesting; I don't recall if Teri addressed that on her site - Why do some Type 14's have completely checkered/grooved grips, and some only 75%???

BTW: How difficult is it to field strip the T14??? Does the trigger guard sequence pull down easily or is it a bear that requires three hands??? (I've read the takedown procedure; it sounds hard)...

Those grips are not original, I suspect that they are either a field replacements or made by Bubba here in the US. I don't know why the grooves vary, and there are subvariations of them as well. You obviously have to count the grooves to be sure that they are correct for your pistol.

The field strip is a two hand operation if you push the barrel against something (table, work bench etc) instead of pushing with your hand. The rest is easy, as long as the trigger guard slides off as it should. If it's stuck, soak in Kroil, then tap it loose with a hammer and a nylon punch.

[Zorba]

Originally Posted by sheepherder

BTW: How difficult is it to field strip the T14??? Does the trigger guard sequence pull down easily or is it a bear that requires three hands??? (I've read the takedown procedure; it sounds hard)...

Its not bad - except the trigger guard is a PITA on mine to get started off. Once you've moved it the first 1/16th inch, it slides right off. I think something needs stoning.

The nice thing is that all the springs literally fall out of the thing - so I ordered a complete new set from Wolff. Not the apparent nightmare the Luger recoil spring is - which I also ordered a new one of those and will be installing it soon. I've seen 2 methods to replace that one - the one here, and another on youtube.

I've been exchanging emails with Hugh about doing some grip work on mine (Nambu) - it has a bad crack in the middle, and my jig was inadequate so I ended up making the situation worse.

[sheepherder]

Thought I'd add a link to an old COTW table of cartridge dimensions...Might be of some slight interest...

[Edward Tinker]

Originally Posted by zormpas

Its not bad - except the trigger guard is a PITA on mine to get started off. Once you've moved it the first 1/16th inch, it slides right off. I think something needs stoning.
,....

I have had some that I could not get the trigger assembly off, had to soak and then bang off with a mallet.

old, sticky oil, plus it might have just been tight?

[Zorba]

Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

I have had some that I could not get the trigger assembly off, had to soak and then bang off with a mallet.

old, sticky oil, plus it might have just been tight?

I was hoping for something like this, the only thing I found was a tiny amount of rust in the grooves where they mate together. Cleaned that up, still tight.

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by zormpas

I was hoping for something like this, the only thing I found was a tiny amount of rust in the grooves where they mate together. Cleaned that up, still tight.

Try brushing the grooves/surfaces with a brass wire brush and see if that helps...If not...

Rather than stone it, I would try some automotive rubbing compound ['coarse'] and/or polishing compound ['fine']...Since yours will come off without a hammer, use the polishing compound...Strip off all the pieces you can, clean the mating surfaces, slather on the compound, move the guard in & out...You'll see it get dirty as it removes metal...Try it for maybe 25 'slides' (you'll probably have to tap it back & forth), then clean it all off, and lube lightly [WD-40 is good here] and see if it slides with finger pressure...Repeat as needed...

Don't use lapping compound/valve grinding compound...They are way too coarse...(But good for removing large amounts of metal)...

...Just my $.02...

[sheepherder]

I've been waiting for the Xmas shipping mess to untagle before ordering a set of reloading dies from RCBS...But last night I noticed an RCBS 8mm Nambu die set on ebay...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RCBS-8mm-Nam...-/141146069780

Here's the pic - Look at it closely...



I helped run the 25 bids up to $150...And lost...Because I knew RCBS sells them new for ~$163...But I wasn't sure of the configuration...

https://shop.rcbs.com/WebConnect/Mai...productId=2629

Here's the new RCBS die set...Notice the difference?...



So even though it may take 60 - 90 days for these 'special order' dies, I'm happy I lost the bidding war for the ebay dies...

(I'm working on a 'conversion' writeup for the 8mm Nambu now)...

[Olle]

Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

I have had some that I could not get the trigger assembly off, had to soak and then bang off with a mallet.

old, sticky oil, plus it might have just been tight?

I had to do that with the one I restored, it seemed to be a combination of a tight fit, rust and gummed up grease that was just about solid.

I soaked it in Kroil over night, then I tapped it with a hammer and a nylon punch. Once it started moving, I tapped it back and forth, moving it a bit further every time. Once I had it off, I lapped it as Sheepherder described above. I used fine lapping compound from Wheelers (intended for scope rings), and finally got the trigger guard to move smoothly.

[Zorba]

Took mine apart (again) last nite to install a new Wolff spring kit. Worked the trigger assy back and forth a kazillion times to where it comes out without too much effort and no prying.

The new recoil springs were 1/3 longer than the old ones - Goddess only knows when/if they were replaced last time. 1942 was a long time ago.

Grips are on their way to Hugh...

[sheepherder]

'My' Nambu Type 14 came in today. Typical war-weary handgun; some pits, scratches, and generally roughly machined surfaces. Two surprises - The spare magazine was in better shape than the numbers matching mag, and the bore is bright & shiny. Downside - Recoil springs even feel weak, only stick out maybe 3/8" from the bolt recesses; grips fit loose & chunk out of one.

I was glad to see that the three most common breakages were not present. The magazine tension [grip] spring had not been ground, filed, bent, or broken; the safety lever is intact; and the firing pin has the original tip, also intact.

It was bone dry, and although dirty, it was not rusty. The trigger guard came off with little effort, the rest came apart easily.

Trigger pull is 'hair trigger'. No two-stage here! I'd guess less than two pounds. New springs might tighten that up.

17 groove grips with the smooth tops. I like this style. The grip feels good with the exception of that magazine tension spring. Despite the spring, the mag pops out about 1/10" when the release button is pressed. Easier to strip if left grip is removed. Grips screws look like stove bolts, but they all look that way, so I guess they're original.

Interesting...

[Maestro]

Originally Posted by Olle

Here's one I restored a while back, belongs to a friend of me now...

wow this is gorgeous! awesome work