my first PO8 info and help?

scottar15 · 07-31-2013, 11:28 AM

yes i did get a holster with it in very nice shape, saddly no tool or extra mag.as far the extractor is correct and the pin. is the low serial unusal? 271. thanks, isthere anyway possible to find the history of this luger?ther wheres and whys of history are very interesting and important to me as well, if it can be done. i would in the future like to get a simson luger as to match the shotgun i have

G.T. · 07-31-2013, 11:38 AM

It is actually a very high serial number...at least for a byf 41... The Germans used a 1 to 4 digit serial followed by a letter suffix... and in the case of a byf 41, it went thru 9999z and then rolled around to 1 thru, somewhere in the XXXXa block prior to the byf 42's... Yours has the E/135 stamp that was applied to all the byf 42's... makes it even a bit more rare...??..or at least to byf collectors it does... Nice gun, best to you, til...lat'r...GT

guns3545 · 07-31-2013, 12:32 PM

Further to G.T.'s comment, the pistol is indeed very late in 1941 production as the "ns" block overlaps with the 42 byf production run.

Of special note is that SN 271 is perhaps the earliest pistol observed with the SE135, SE135 acceptance proofs.

We know inspector SE135 arrived on the scene during the ns block. While SE655, SE135 and SE135, SE655 are observed throughout the "ns" range, it appears inspector SE135 was responsible for first and secondary inspections much earlier in the ns block than previous data indicated.

However, I also hasten to add that another explanation is possible; namely, that the pistol was initially rejected and then recycled in 1942 when SE135 was clearly in charge of first and second inspections and inspector SE655 had departed.

As GT pointed out all 42 byfs are SE135 SE135 proofed.

Thus, either way, an interesting pistol from a collector's standpoint trying to understand when pistols were produced and who inspected them.

However, to the inspecting authority it was just one more P.08 coming off the line during WW II. Nothing more. Nothing less. And besides, the P.38 was now the standard sidearm and the P.08 was being phased out.

John

07-31-2013, 11:38 AM	#2
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,528 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 3,711 Times in 1,014 Posts	serial no.. It is actually a very high serial number...at least for a byf 41... The Germans used a 1 to 4 digit serial followed by a letter suffix... and in the case of a byf 41, it went thru 9999z and then rolled around to 1 thru, somewhere in the XXXXa block prior to the byf 42's... Yours has the E/135 stamp that was applied to all the byf 42's... makes it even a bit more rare...??..or at least to byf collectors it does... Nice gun, best to you, til...lat'r...GT

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07-31-2013, 11:28 AM	#1
scottar15 User Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Allentown Pa. Posts: 6 Thanks: 9 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	yes i did get a holster with it in very nice shape, saddly no tool or extra mag.as far the extractor is correct and the pin. is the low serial unusal? 271. thanks, isthere anyway possible to find the history of this luger?ther wheres and whys of history are very interesting and important to me as well, if it can be done. i would in the future like to get a simson luger as to match the shotgun i have

07-31-2013, 12:32 PM	#3
guns3545 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 438 Thanks: 661 Thanked 493 Times in 219 Posts	Further to G.T.'s comment, the pistol is indeed very late in 1941 production as the "ns" block overlaps with the 42 byf production run. Of special note is that SN 271 is perhaps the earliest pistol observed with the SE135, SE135 acceptance proofs. We know inspector SE135 arrived on the scene during the ns block. While SE655, SE135 and SE135, SE655 are observed throughout the "ns" range, it appears inspector SE135 was responsible for first and secondary inspections much earlier in the ns block than previous data indicated. However, I also hasten to add that another explanation is possible; namely, that the pistol was initially rejected and then recycled in 1942 when SE135 was clearly in charge of first and second inspections and inspector SE655 had departed. As GT pointed out all 42 byfs are SE135 SE135 proofed. Thus, either way, an interesting pistol from a collector's standpoint trying to understand when pistols were produced and who inspected them. However, to the inspecting authority it was just one more P.08 coming off the line during WW II. Nothing more. Nothing less. And besides, the P.38 was now the standard sidearm and the P.08 was being phased out. John