Frozen Extractor, can't see into chamber

ithacaartist · 05-18-2013, 12:28 AM

If the upper moves back, try to rotate the take-down lever down to release the side plate from its position and move the top end forward and out of the frame. I'm thinking the entire upper might just slip out at this point.

If this can be accomplished, you'll be more likely to see what the problem is, plus have access all around it And at that point the rear toggle axle will be accessible. If it can be slid/gently tapped out from right to left, you're on the right track; even better if the breech block will slip back and out of the extension, using the other David's technique--at which point you'll also be able to gently apply a little force by hand to flex/rotate the joints. DJU's suggestion to soak it means, I believe, to immerse it entirely. This way, none of the kerosene will drip/dry off.

We can go farther explaining how to clean the joints before re-lubricating, but will wait until you report the previous steps are accomplished successfully.

Newmanos · 05-19-2013, 10:35 AM

I got the upper off and soaked it. I'm happy to report i was able to free it up and get the toggles up to see into the chamber which was empty. I was gunked up, didn't look like rust more like hardened grease. I couldn't get the toggle pin out though to get the rest of the upper apart to clean. should i soak it again and hope that loosens up too? I didn't want to be banging on it with a screwdriver. So far every part i was able to views numbers matched. thanks again for all your help. I have field stripped quite a bit of guns in the past but never one of these.

05-18-2013, 12:28 AM	#1
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,400 Thanks: 7,555 Thanked 2,643 Times in 1,393 Posts	If the upper moves back, try to rotate the take-down lever down to release the side plate from its position and move the top end forward and out of the frame. I'm thinking the entire upper might just slip out at this point. If this can be accomplished, you'll be more likely to see what the problem is, plus have access all around it And at that point the rear toggle axle will be accessible. If it can be slid/gently tapped out from right to left, you're on the right track; even better if the breech block will slip back and out of the extension, using the other David's technique--at which point you'll also be able to gently apply a little force by hand to flex/rotate the joints. DJU's suggestion to soak it means, I believe, to immerse it entirely. This way, none of the kerosene will drip/dry off. We can go farther explaining how to clean the joints before re-lubricating, but will wait until you report the previous steps are accomplished successfully. __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

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05-19-2013, 10:35 AM	#2
Newmanos User Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 13 Thanks: 22 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I got the upper off and soaked it. I'm happy to report i was able to free it up and get the toggles up to see into the chamber which was empty. I was gunked up, didn't look like rust more like hardened grease. I couldn't get the toggle pin out though to get the rest of the upper apart to clean. should i soak it again and hope that loosens up too? I didn't want to be banging on it with a screwdriver. So far every part i was able to views numbers matched. thanks again for all your help. I have field stripped quite a bit of guns in the past but never one of these.