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Old 04-05-2013, 11:13 AM   #1
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Sergio, Is it not possible in Italy to legally have the original barrel changed for a new barrel chambered for 9x21mm? Then you could have the original barrel re-installed in the event you sell such a firearm to someone in a different EU country, and Therefore no loss of overall collector value.
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Sergio, Is it not possible in Italy to legally have the original barrel changed for a new barrel chambered for 9x21mm? Then you could have the original barrel re-installed in the event you sell such a firearm to someone in a different EU country, and Therefore no loss of overall collector value.
The barrel is the same; to get a 9x21 IMI from a 9 mm Para they don't modify (spoil) the barrel but they bore the actual chamber of the pistol.
9x21 IMI and 9 mm Para have the same diameter but the chamber has a different lenght as the case lenght of a 9x21 IMI should be mm 21.15 (0.833 in) vs 19.15 mm (0.754 in) of the 9 mm para.
That's why I started to collect only Swiss in 7,65 Para
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The barrel is the same; to get a 9x21 IMI from a 9 mm Para they don't modify (spoil) the barrel but they bore the actual chamber of the pistol.
9x21 IMI and 9 mm Para have the same diameter but the chamber has a different lenght as the case lenght of a 9x21 IMI should be mm 21.15 (0.833 in) vs 19.15 mm (0.754 in) of the 9 mm para.
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is it required to mark/engrave the new caliber on the pistol when it is altered??? Or can you leave it 'bare'???

I think, if it was me, I would make a 7.65 'liner' to press in 9mm barrel...leave 9mm lands & grooves; just press [lightly] the liner in...Liner would only have bottleneck of chamber...Would that satisfy the authorities???
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Old 04-06-2013, 08:29 AM   #4
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Sergio -

is it required to mark/engrave the new caliber on the pistol when it is altered??? Or can you leave it 'bare'???

I think, if it was me, I would make a 7.65 'liner' to press in 9mm barrel...leave 9mm lands & grooves; just press [lightly] the liner in...Liner would only have bottleneck of chamber...Would that satisfy the authorities???
Sometime on the market you can find WWI P.08 originally 9 mm Parabellum "transformed" in 7,65 Surely they do what you just said to the chamber, then either change the barrel or the re-barrel the original one as the diameter of the 7,65 mm Para is obviously narrower (about 0,309 in.)
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