RIA's "1902 Carbine"

cirelaw · 03-29-2013, 12:48 PM

Rock Island Auction has close to 180 lugers and accessories now listed! I understand their commissions are way high. Has anyone bought or sold a luger using their service? Is it a buyers or sellers environment!! Do they have any control over your asking price? Can you post a reserve? Would you use Gunbroker instead? Tks ~~~~Eric

Norme · 03-29-2013, 01:26 PM

The more I study R.I.A.'s description of this piece, the more convinced I am that they have acted in a most shameful manner. Ron Wood has described their description of this gun as being "carefully crafted to avoid any positive statement of authenticity", but it seems to me that they have made a serious effort to imply, just the opposite, that this carbine was "custom" made, under the personal supervision of George Luger himself, for presentation to a person of importance, presumable President Roosevelt.
No mention is made that the serial number and GL monogram are fake, yet consider this quote from their description:
"This pistol, having the unique serial number range and the special "GL" type monogram was more than likely developed for special presentation purposes".
A particular irony is the posting of Ralph Shattuck's guarantee of authenticity, under the heading "Our client's best interest is our primary concern".
Regards, Norm

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03-29-2013, 12:48 PM	#1
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	Rock Island Auction has close to 180 lugers and accessories now listed! I understand their commissions are way high. Has anyone bought or sold a luger using their service? Is it a buyers or sellers environment!! Do they have any control over your asking price? Can you post a reserve? Would you use Gunbroker instead? Tks ~~~~Eric

03-29-2013, 01:26 PM	#2
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,607 Times in 933 Posts	The more I study R.I.A.'s description of this piece, the more convinced I am that they have acted in a most shameful manner. Ron Wood has described their description of this gun as being "carefully crafted to avoid any positive statement of authenticity", but it seems to me that they have made a serious effort to imply, just the opposite, that this carbine was "custom" made, under the personal supervision of George Luger himself, for presentation to a person of importance, presumable President Roosevelt. No mention is made that the serial number and GL monogram are fake, yet consider this quote from their description: "This pistol, having the unique serial number range and the special "GL" type monogram was more than likely developed for special presentation purposes". A particular irony is the posting of Ralph Shattuck's guarantee of authenticity, under the heading "Our client's best interest is our primary concern". Regards, Norm