Those Mysterious Forty-fives

[John Sabato]

Ed, What "can't be true?"

I have to stand by my assessment... unless the ammunition is undersized, I can't see how it couldn't work.

As far as shooting your S&W 25-2 without half-moon clips... Sure you can... look in the chambers and you will see that the case headspaces on the shoulder in the chamber... the half moon clip is so the extractor can eject the empties...without the half moons (or even moons... I have seen full moon clips for that gun and the 1917's) there is no way for a revolver to grab the cases for ejection.

The "clips" (properly named... as they are not "magazines") have nothing to do with headspace on your revolver.


Postino! We don't need no stinkin time machine! To quote the late great Elmer Keith, "HECK, I was THERE!)

Would somebody who has the information please be so kind as to post dimensioned drawings of the two cartridge cases so everyone can see the differences?

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by John Sabato

Would somebody who has the information please be so kind as to post dimensioned drawings of the two cartridge cases so everyone can see the differences?

I couldn't find a drawing for the 1906 Colt 45 Auto [precursor to the 45 ACP] but I did find the dimensions in COTW, IIRC...I think I posted them to the other thread; I'll see if I can find the reference again...

Someone else here seemed familiar with the 1906 Colt 45 Auto cartridge; perhaps they have a really old book with a dimensioned drawing...

[alanint]

John,

Ed was being facecious. The way I read his post, Ed totally agrees with you.

Originally Posted by John Sabato

Ed, What "can't be true?"

I have to stand by my assessment... unless the ammunition is undersized, I can't see how it couldn't work.

As far as shooting your S&W 25-2 without half-moon clips... Sure you can... look in the chambers and you will see that the case headspaces on the shoulder in the chamber... the half moon clip is so the extractor can eject the empties...without the half moons (or even moons... I have seen full moon clips for that gun and the 1917's) there is no way for a revolver to grab the cases for ejection.

The "clips" (properly named... as they are not "magazines") have nothing to do with headspace on your revolver.


Postino! We don't need no stinkin time machine! To quote the late great Elmer Keith, "HECK, I was THERE!)

Would somebody who has the information please be so kind as to post dimensioned drawings of the two cartridge cases so everyone can see the differences?

[Edward Tinker]

Originally Posted by alanint

John,

Ed was being facecious. The way I read his post, Ed totally agrees with you.

heh heh

[sheepherder]

John -

Here's the chart referenced to in the previous page...The M1906 is dimensionally different from the final M1911 cartridge...