Is this DDR refurb but not VoPo issue

Vlim · 11-07-2012, 05:50 PM

1) Most DDR lugers received bakelite grips with the bullseye logo. Som retained their original grips. I never saw 'DDR reproduced' wooden grips on a VoPo.

2) All you need is a $10 punch set and a hammer.

3) Can only be determined by looking at the magazine. Magazines can easily be switched/force matched.

4) Most unlikely. VoPo's started coming on the the US market in the late 1970s already.

5) See 3.

Andyd · 11-09-2012, 11:33 AM

www.prussia.us,

regarding point 4), the GDR did not send their P.08s to other nations, the Volkspolizei gave them to the worker's brigades when they replaced them. Guns were also bought from Hungary and Russia to fill the niche at a later time.

The ones sold as the first lot to the U.S. had the star defaced. The lot that later made it through Frankonia have their import mark and the sunburst star intact.

Ithacaartist might be right, the finish does look sandblasted and as it was pointed out by Vlim, the Vopos restamped the upper on my Vopo 08 and the others I have seen. I have not seen a Vopo frame restamped but that is no conclusive proof, only yet another warning flag on that fishy gun.

www.prussia.us · 11-09-2012, 03:57 PM

Well I THANK ALL FOR YOU for your sage advice, Luger collectors have a very unique tome of knowledge compared to other military surplus guns, I am pretty good with Mausers 98s but I am way out of my ointment with this stuff, so I greatly appreciate this site, and your help.

It is still a neat Luger b/c of the regimental marking and double date, a cool shooter for sure, but I will keep my powder dry on this one and wait for the one I am looking for

Again please feel free to PM me if any of you see one for sale.

THANKS

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11-07-2012, 05:50 PM	#1
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,991 Times in 1,205 Posts	1) Most DDR lugers received bakelite grips with the bullseye logo. Som retained their original grips. I never saw 'DDR reproduced' wooden grips on a VoPo. 2) All you need is a $10 punch set and a hammer. 3) Can only be determined by looking at the magazine. Magazines can easily be switched/force matched. 4) Most unlikely. VoPo's started coming on the the US market in the late 1970s already. 5) See 3.

11-09-2012, 11:33 AM	#2
Andyd User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Kaufman County, Texas Posts: 48 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	www.prussia.us, regarding point 4), the GDR did not send their P.08s to other nations, the Volkspolizei gave them to the worker's brigades when they replaced them. Guns were also bought from Hungary and Russia to fill the niche at a later time. The ones sold as the first lot to the U.S. had the star defaced. The lot that later made it through Frankonia have their import mark and the sunburst star intact. Ithacaartist might be right, the finish does look sandblasted and as it was pointed out by Vlim, the Vopos restamped the upper on my Vopo 08 and the others I have seen. I have not seen a Vopo frame restamped but that is no conclusive proof, only yet another warning flag on that fishy gun.

11-09-2012, 03:57 PM	#3
www.prussia.us User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 40 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well I THANK ALL FOR YOU for your sage advice, Luger collectors have a very unique tome of knowledge compared to other military surplus guns, I am pretty good with Mausers 98s but I am way out of my ointment with this stuff, so I greatly appreciate this site, and your help. It is still a neat Luger b/c of the regimental marking and double date, a cool shooter for sure, but I will keep my powder dry on this one and wait for the one I am looking for Again please feel free to PM me if any of you see one for sale. THANKS