DWM - Retailer Marked Luger - Information request - Page 2

John Sabato · 06-12-2012, 01:24 PM

While this is a very nice looking Luger, I have to agree with Ron Wood, and Alanint, that the Stoeger marking is not genuine. All of the other pistols shown in photos in this thread can be clearly seen to be STAMPED. The markings on the original photos in post #1 have been ENGRAVED...

I would accept this pistol as a Stoeger Luger...

glock30 · 06-12-2012, 01:53 PM

Wow, look at this one. This has a strange arrangement of the Patent line.

glock30 · 06-12-2012, 01:57 PM

I see, so your saying someone freehanded this? WOW, all in all, they had a pretty steady hand, got to give them that. Amazing again what steps people will take to fake these.

glock30 · 06-12-2012, 11:04 PM

Well if that is indeed an ingraving, the person that did that really has an amzingly steady hand, but they do it. What gets me is, the people that actually go through all that bother to make a fake?? It makes no sense to me.

alanint · 06-12-2012, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by glock30

Yes we said fake, but there are Stoegers without that Registration stamp, there was one right on here on this forum that no one questioned that bears The Stoeger mark without the USA Reistration scroll , that is all I said, so b4 they ran the serial numbers to determine it was fake, how did you determine this weapon was fake just because the stamp lacks the USA reg mark? OR did you determine it was fake by the serial number, if you did, sorry. I thought you all said it was fake for the lack of the 2nd stamp, the patent stamp.

This first picture of it bears a mark identical to a mint Stoeger on this forum. I am trying to upload the actual images of that MINT Stoeger on this very forum that bears the exact same stamp as this one,(I copied the pictures) it does not have the Luger registration patent mark, and no one on that thread said that gun was fake. Just wondering why Ron thought this mark was fake, I thought it was also. BUT my question, why did none of you call out that other Stoeger? The files I have of this gun are bitmap and too large, and I am trying to find the thread but have no success. Are you mad, LOL. I will eventually figure out how to post those images.

If you are addressing my comments, you've gotten way ahead of yourself. I never stated that an authentic Stoeger had to have the second registration stamp nor did I ever mention the serial number. I am stating an opinion based on the really poor quality of the engraving itself, (letters of varying size, not exactly straight and of a quality and depth that tells me it was done with a pantograph or Trophy Store quality engraving equipment. Certainly not by Stoeger Arms). I also never weighed in on the thread you recently posted, so how could I have a varying opinion? While I did not comment on the other "Stoeger", I can certainly see that the engraving is of a much more professional quality and would have raised fewer initial alarm bells than the example under discussion.
"Are you mad, LOL"...what kind of question is that?

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06-12-2012, 01:24 PM	#1
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,309 Times in 1,098 Posts	While this is a very nice looking Luger, I have to agree with Ron Wood, and Alanint, that the Stoeger marking is not genuine. All of the other pistols shown in photos in this thread can be clearly seen to be STAMPED. The markings on the original photos in post #1 have been ENGRAVED... I would accept this pistol as a Stoeger Luger... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

06-12-2012, 01:57 PM	#3
glock30 User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Obama LAND Posts: 206 Thanks: 18 Thanked 17 Times in 14 Posts	I see, so your saying someone freehanded this? WOW, all in all, they had a pretty steady hand, got to give them that. Amazing again what steps people will take to fake these.

06-12-2012, 11:04 PM	#4
glock30 User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Obama LAND Posts: 206 Thanks: 18 Thanked 17 Times in 14 Posts	Well if that is indeed an ingraving, the person that did that really has an amzingly steady hand, but they do it. What gets me is, the people that actually go through all that bother to make a fake?? It makes no sense to me.