DWM Package Value and Education

alanint · 10-27-2011, 03:12 PM

The aluminum bottomed mags were phased in in the Weimar era, at roughly the same time that your barreled upper receiver. The upper is a 1918 dated piece. It could be an Erfurt manufactured receiver based on the Artillery sight notch, but only a closer inspection of the marking would confirm that it is Erfurt versus DWM. The "1920" is not a date but a property mark placed there by the Weimar Goverment to state that the weapon was in the inventory allowed the German goverment by the Treaty of Versailles.

oldiron1 · 10-27-2011, 03:23 PM

Thank you MFC & Alanint,

Interesting history behind the Weimar era marking.

I didn't realize 9mm was being used back in 1918 already.

The barrel/receiver does have a few markings on it, so I'll take some better detailed pictures and post them. This extra upper is as interesting to me as the whole pistol is!

oldiron1 · 10-31-2011, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanint

The aluminum bottomed mags were phased in in the Weimar era, at roughly the same time that your barreled upper receiver. The upper is a 1918 dated piece. It could be an Erfurt manufactured receiver based on the Artillery sight notch, but only a closer inspection of the marking would confirm that it is Erfurt versus DWM. The "1920" is not a date but a property mark placed there by the Weimar Goverment to state that the weapon was in the inventory allowed the German goverment by the Treaty of Versailles.

Thanks Alanint,

I do now notice the Artillery sight notch on the extra 9mm barrel/receiver that I have. I will take a close look at the markings as well as take some close-up pictures.

Did both Erfurt and DWM both manufacture Artillery Lugers in 1918? Is one manufacture more common than the other?

Thanks again!

oldiron1 · 10-31-2011, 09:26 PM

Well, I tried to take some decent pictures of the "extra" artillery barrel's markings, however I had a tough time getting clear/crisp pictures of the markings.

Below is what I found. It's a pretty decent picture of the multiple markings on the bottom of the receiver. I tried to get decent pictures of the side of the barrel but they didn't turn out very well.

There is a crown over what look like the letters "RG", then under that marking looks like crown over something, but for the life of me, can't figure out what.

The right side of the receiver looks like crown over a bomb and to the right of that mark, is the German Waffle mark over three letters, but I can't make out what letters.

Any input is greatly appreciated!!

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10-27-2011, 03:12 PM	#1
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	The aluminum bottomed mags were phased in in the Weimar era, at roughly the same time that your barreled upper receiver. The upper is a 1918 dated piece. It could be an Erfurt manufactured receiver based on the Artillery sight notch, but only a closer inspection of the marking would confirm that it is Erfurt versus DWM. The "1920" is not a date but a property mark placed there by the Weimar Goverment to state that the weapon was in the inventory allowed the German goverment by the Treaty of Versailles.

10-27-2011, 03:23 PM	#2
oldiron1 User Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank you MFC & Alanint, Interesting history behind the Weimar era marking. I didn't realize 9mm was being used back in 1918 already. The barrel/receiver does have a few markings on it, so I'll take some better detailed pictures and post them. This extra upper is as interesting to me as the whole pistol is!

10-31-2011, 09:26 PM	#4
oldiron1 User Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well, I tried to take some decent pictures of the "extra" artillery barrel's markings, however I had a tough time getting clear/crisp pictures of the markings. Below is what I found. It's a pretty decent picture of the multiple markings on the bottom of the receiver. I tried to get decent pictures of the side of the barrel but they didn't turn out very well. There is a crown over what look like the letters "RG", then under that marking looks like crown over something, but for the life of me, can't figure out what. The right side of the receiver looks like crown over a bomb and to the right of that mark, is the German Waffle mark over three letters, but I can't make out what letters. Any input is greatly appreciated!!