Out of these powders, which is best?

Freischütz · 10-09-2011, 12:53 AM

I've had excellent results in both the 7.65 and 9 mm with HS-6. There's very little leading with plain based lead bullets, and it meters consistently through my Lyman 55 powder measure. Right now it's my preferred powder.

Unique also produces good results. However with it I find more leading with plain based lead bullets. It also leaves a residue that attracts bullet lube. Unique does not meter consistently for me.

Red Dot meters more consistently than Unique. It has a similar bullet lube affinity. It seems to produce more pressure than Unique for equal velocities. This conclusion is subjective and based on the amount of effort needed to resize the same cases used with Unique. Years ago I read that Red Dot had similar burning characteristics to the original 9mm powder. When I asked here, no one knew if that was true.

I haven't used Accurate Arms Nr 5 but have used Nr 7 in the 7.65. Velocities seemed low – about 100fps below the manual (manual used 6” barrel and different cases). The powder is very fine and works its way between my powder measure's drum and body. It takes a lot of force to work the measure. But, the stuff does meter consistently.

I don't have any experience with the other powders so no comments on them.

When shooting P.08s or any other older pistol I try to keep pressures down by using mid and slower burning powders. I also limit the velocity to the factory specification for the period in which the gun was made. I've seen 7.65 data that rivaled full loads in my C96 and wondered how the poor old P.08s held up against it.

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10-09-2011, 12:53 AM	#3
Freischütz User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Eastern Washington Posts: 127 Thanks: 10 Thanked 26 Times in 19 Posts	I've had excellent results in both the 7.65 and 9 mm with HS-6. There's very little leading with plain based lead bullets, and it meters consistently through my Lyman 55 powder measure. Right now it's my preferred powder. Unique also produces good results. However with it I find more leading with plain based lead bullets. It also leaves a residue that attracts bullet lube. Unique does not meter consistently for me. Red Dot meters more consistently than Unique. It has a similar bullet lube affinity. It seems to produce more pressure than Unique for equal velocities. This conclusion is subjective and based on the amount of effort needed to resize the same cases used with Unique. Years ago I read that Red Dot had similar burning characteristics to the original 9mm powder. When I asked here, no one knew if that was true. I haven't used Accurate Arms Nr 5 but have used Nr 7 in the 7.65. Velocities seemed low – about 100fps below the manual (manual used 6” barrel and different cases). The powder is very fine and works its way between my powder measure's drum and body. It takes a lot of force to work the measure. But, the stuff does meter consistently. I don't have any experience with the other powders so no comments on them. When shooting P.08s or any other older pistol I try to keep pressures down by using mid and slower burning powders. I also limit the velocity to the factory specification for the period in which the gun was made. I've seen 7.65 data that rivaled full loads in my C96 and wondered how the poor old P.08s held up against it.